(March 8, 2016 at 9:58 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(March 8, 2016 at 9:51 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm gonna say this one more time, and this goes to everyone.
I believe God allows nature to take its course. I believe He allows people to have free will. He let's things happen as they would, naturally.
He does not resort to divine intervention to micromanage the world.
From that, there are good and bad consequences. One of the bad consequences is rape. However, I trust God to know that the good consequences of His decision to give us free will and to not be a micromanager, outweigh the bad consequences of it. Im not saying the bad consequences aren't bad. I'm not saying rape, specifically, has good consequences. I'm saying I trust that the good consequences in general, of giving us free will, in general... of not resorting to divine intervention, of letting nature take its course, etc, etc, outweigh the bad.
What are the "good consequences?" That I do not know. I'm just a little human, living in a tiny section of the universe, for a tiny amount of time. I'm not God. I can't see everything.
Also, I believe that if God did become human like us He would stop a rape if it came to it. After all, He did stop the stoning of an adulteress. But He is not human right now. And stopping bad things from happening would require divine intervention, taking away free will, micromanaging. Which are all things that He, for whatever reason that we can't see right now, has deemed would do more harm than good in the grand scheme of things. (Also, I never said rape goes unpunished so I'm not sure where that straw came from.)
So, that's it. That's all there is to it. You may not like it, but at this point I honestly don't give a fuck. It's your decision whether you choose to accept my differences and still be cool with me, as I accept yours, or not. But there is nothing else I can say on the subject that hasn't already been said. So take it or leave it.
Well, it's still a form of special pleading and it's still a logical fallacy. If you are okay with it, then that is your decision. Hopefully no one here will stop being cool with you over a philosophical disagreement, because that would just be silly.
They are absolutely free to do so, since quite frankly, I'm not cool with anyone who thinks I'm excusing rape in any way shape or form. The feeling would be mutual.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
