(March 9, 2016 at 1:02 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(March 9, 2016 at 12:04 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I fail to see how what CL has said is an example of special pleading. The argument from evil basically states that God would not allow gratuitous evil, that is, evil that is not otherwise necessary. She has clearly elucidated the defense that she does not believe God has allowed unnecessary suffering, that he has a reason for its necessity which is consistent with a greater good. She has also said that she doesn't know what that reason is.
Nowhere in this do I see any special pleading. Could you be a little more precise in specifying your objection?
In other words, if such a judgement of gratuitous versus necessary evil can never be considered objectively morally acceptable here amongst us humans, is it not special pleading to give God allowance to do it for reason unknowable to us?
That would make such an actor immoral, if valid, but it wouldn't be special pleading as no fallacy is involved. I don't know that we don't allow some harm to fall for the greater good. We take people's hard earned money to pay for roads, schools, military and all whatnot. Is that not sacrificing someone's interests in the name of the greater good? This is a subject which comes up in utilitarian ethics where the straight formula is that what is moral is whatever delivers the greatest good for the most people. We disallow certain things because systematically they would lead to greater harm, but nothing says that we can't balance interests. Is it okay, in designing a world, to allow this kind of freedom? I don't know. I don't know what God's options were in designing this reality. If our world suffices to present the greatest total good, within the realm of the possible, would it not also be immoral to design a world with a lower overall total of goodness? So God, being omnipotent but constrained to that which is possible, may have been faced with a Hobbes choice. Are you suggesting the rest of us suffer a lesser more suffering imbued fate so that only rape victims prosper? I think in that circumstance, given lesser of evils and whatnot, God is morally permitted to 'settle' for the greater total good scenario.
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