My views on objective morality

[Whateverist]

 When believers come on here and strike a condescending tone I get royally pissed off.  But when the person who holds those beliefs is as sensitive not to be provocative as she is, I can't understand the aggressive impulse some showed in this thread.  Of course being human and over reacting is always possible and understandable.

I think the condescension that comes from certain theists rubs off. Makes you expect it every time you have a discussion with any theist. So, you will have one that actually does downplay the immorality of rape (after all, there are verses in the Bible in which God is encouraging it), but it doesn't mean that every believer is okay with rape or defends it as a moral action. 

The problem, to me, is not so much condoning rape, which LC is not doing. The problem is that the idea of 'free will' is really just a way to shift responsibility for the problem from the creator to the created. Being omni-everything includes being omni-responsible. Authority without responsibility is not authority at all. The 'fact' that humans have free will (and I've already pointed out a couple of flaws in that assertion) does not absolve higher authority from its responsibility.

Since I only look at the bible as allegory entirely divorced from the physical world I would explain the rationale of the God character thus:  

Humans as garden variety mammals lived in a state of grace of sorts.  (Empirically we would just call it a state of nature but, hey, this is an allegorical account; got to leave that shit outside.)  But then God, which isn't really an entity 'out there' in the world at all, decided to create man (where man = the conscious mind).  God sacrificed Himself, for He was the former jockey of our bodies, to give birth to the conscious mind.  With it, humans were able to consciously weight pros and cons and delay his reaction in the process.  This gave him an enormous advantage in the garden he shared with all the other animals.  With it he gained the capacity for moral knowledge - something God possessed only instinctively.  The catch was that while God was able to cede the steering wheel to the conscious mind.  He couldn't also transfer the instinctual wisdom of the ages, the wisdom to make a fulfilling life.  It wasn't God being stingy.  God just isn't omni-anything.  He did what he could.  He stepped aside.  But like it or not wisdom remained locked up inside himself.  So to this day man still must pray or reflect or whatever you want to call it in order to commune with God to share in His wisdom.