(March 10, 2016 at 3:48 pm)Kiekeben Wrote: I say morality is subjective because I think that claiming that something is morally good or bad, etc., depends on one's attitude towards that thing. It is not a claim about the properties of the thing itself, independent of what anyone feels about it. So, although I maintain that torturing someone for fun is always wrong, I do not mean by that that there is a fact about the action of torturing someone that makes it wrong - such that one could determine by examining the action itself that it really is wrong, and that anyone who disagrees is making a factual mistake. In saying it is always wrong, I am merely expressing my complete disapproval of it.
If I'm reading you correctly, what you're delineating is the difference between objective morality and absolute morality. You hold that torturing someone for fun is absolutely wrong, but that isn't a property that anyone can see in the action itself. Is that a fair restatement of your view?
I've held, and hold, that people clutter their thinking when they confuse absolutel morality with objective morality, and relative morality with subjective morality. The first two terms address the action itself, while the latter two address viewpoints and circumstances surrounding the act.
