My views on objective morality

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Seriously, you really aren't doing CL, nor this forum any good by protecting her against criticism when she has it coming!

I think you may have a big misunderstanding of why people came to her defense. It wasn't because we necessarily agree with her points or way of arguing them

I can't believe you don't know I gave no reason for you to believe that. I know it's because you like CL, and sympathize with her because she appears to be so genuinely nice. I don't know her outside of this forum, but still I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt too, so to speak (I really have no reason to doubt her).

What I'm appealing for is that this site should not let personal prejudices get in the way of fair and open discourse when there's a disagreement between members. Some people got very rude with CL in this thread, and that's unfortunate, but passions escalate when somebody makes a position and then hides behind her ignorance while still maintaining that position. Anyone else who said what she did would be suspected of feigning ignorance, which I believe is what set others off, although that's hard to really believe of CL.

..., but because she was being repeatedly told that she was a rape apologist, or a supporter of rape, as well as a barrage of other insults. None of those were valid forms of criticism of her arguments; they were just rude comments and combined together they took on a rather nasty form of bullying.

I personally disagree with Catholic_Lady's views. I'm not a Catholic, I don't believe in God, and I don't believe in objective morality. However I at least will have the decency to listen to them and try to discuss them with her in a polite manner, without resorting to strawmen arguments and insults that try to paint her as someone who supports rape.

Maybe I'm sympathetic because in the past I've been called a racist, a wannabe member of the SS, etc. for some views I have regarding personal property and business. People jumped to my defense back then, and I'm doing the same to someone who has also been unfairly characterized.

I do understand the above, and I believe my point still stands.

Although I once lost it on CL over her stand on abortion early on, I don't recall ever calling her nor you a "racist", "a horrible person", and certainly not a wannabe member of the SS. I've told a few people here to "fuck off" when they got aggressive with their own shit, but I simply could not say that to one with CL's sweet disposition.

Her statements were supportive of a god who allows rape - now if you were to say that's OK for another human to do, then what, honestly, would it make you? I was just trying to explain that to her, as I think was the case with LFC.

All I'm asking of those who love CL is to keep it fair for everyone else here.