(March 11, 2016 at 10:01 am)popsthebuilder Wrote:(March 10, 2016 at 7:17 am)pocaracas Wrote: There may be something to a common shared morality... but it need not be handed down by a god...Evolution is a guided system. It is guided by the will of life to continue. To say it is random or not at least both a cause and an effect is being closed minded due to bias for whatever reason, and has absolutely no evidence to back it.
The god bit is your own indoctrination talking... not your abstract thinking self.
It seems to me you're looking at it from the point of view of the individual...
Evolution operates on populations.
It's good, because the population has learned what harms its health and labelled that as bad.... and what actively avoids such bad things is labelled good.
It's important to remind ourselves, once in a while, that words are labels for concepts.... and sometimes the concepts are not what they seem. Nowadays, many concepts have evolved to become strange things, heavily imbued by the religious thoughts of the past.
Think about what it means to be "a healthy population" and you'll find the concept of good and bad and, if you so wish, an absolute kind of moral code that each individual within that population should adhere to.
You may also find that there are several ways to achieve a healthy population and, as such, several "absolute moral codes"... and that is what is commonly called non-absolute morality, right?
And that is how evolution works.... finding ways to make things work, not necessarily always finding the same ways... nor at the same time...
Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
The last line of your post is flat out false. "Faith" is the problem, not the solution. If life worked like that there would be no conflict in the world at all. There is no such thing as a perfect religion that is 100% unifying. Even in the same labels there are sub sects that compete as to how to interpret that religion and it's holy writings. There is NOT one religion in the world that escapes this problem.
The natural explanation for what humans call "good" is our species ability for empathy and compassion. Once you start using very subjective words like "faith" people start fighting over what that means. NO you cant get rid of religion, but "faith" is not a virtue, and NOTHING, not a religion not a political party not a business model, should be blindly valued and that is what "faith" is, the idea that all you have to do is follow without question.
I hate that word, it is a cliche. I say "value" and yes, I do value you the positive side of my fellow humans in their ability to be compassionate and have empathy for others. But that does not mean because I value that, "faith" is something you protect from scrutiny or blasphemy.
I wish more humans would value reason over the fear of being wrong. I wish more people would value non violence and not loaded words like "faith" that are so ambiguous and subject to countless interpretations. Our species is all we have in the end. While "faith" will not go away, it still does not deserve taboos.
