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Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality.
(March 11, 2016 at 10:15 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 11, 2016 at 10:01 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: Evolution is a guided system. It is guided by the will of life to continue. To say it is random or not at least both a cause and an effect is being closed minded due to bias for whatever reason, and has absolutely no evidence to back it.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

The last line of your post is flat out false. "Faith" is the problem, not the solution. If life worked like that there would be no conflict in the world at all. There is no such thing as a perfect religion that is 100% unifying. Even in the same labels there are sub sects that compete as to how to interpret that religion and it's holy writings. There is NOT one religion in the world that escapes this problem.

The natural explanation for what humans call "good" is our species ability for empathy and compassion. Once you start using very subjective words like "faith" people start fighting over what that means. NO you cant get rid of religion, but "faith" is not a virtue, and NOTHING, not a religion not a political party not a business model, should be blindly valued and that is what "faith" is, the idea that all you have to do is follow without question.

I hate that word, it is a cliche. I say "value" and yes, I do value you the positive side of my fellow humans in their ability to be compassionate and have empathy for others. But that does not mean because I value that, "faith" is something you protect from scrutiny or blasphemy. 

I wish more humans would value reason over the fear of being wrong. I wish more people would value non violence and not loaded words like "faith" that are so ambiguous and subject to countless interpretations. Our species is all we have in the end. While "faith" will not go away, it still does not deserve taboos.
What? My sig?

Don't conflate Faith with blind obedience please. At least not when I'm using it.
It is based on what one knows on an innermost level, though it isn't a physical, readily, easily observable thing for many.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
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RE: Why it's important to know there is an objective morality. - by popsthebuilder - March 11, 2016 at 10:30 am

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