(March 11, 2016 at 10:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(March 11, 2016 at 10:05 pm)abaris Wrote: Catholics don't subscribe to the burning part anymore. When I was little, they still did. But as far as I understand it, catholics subsicribe to the absence of god as punishment today. CL might correct me, if I'm wrong.
You are not wrong:
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/18/arts/h...gewanted=1
What we believe is that, since God is goodness and love, we truly reject Him by rejecting those things. So separation from God in the afterlife means you have chosen to turn away from goodness and love. You have completely hardened your heart. You have nothing but hate and contempt. That's miserable for a human because we were made for love, and we need it to be happy. That's what the majority of us consider "Hell" now a days.
I believe the worse part of hell, is separation from God, but I believe our dark deeds create fire, fire that is more painful then fire we are aware of in this world.
Imam Ali taught us to pray (in Du'a of his companion Kumail):
"And say you give me patience to endure the heat of your fire, how will I endure separation from you?"
The pain from the fire is one thing for lovers of God, they may endure it patiently. But separation and distance from God is not something they can endure.
We feel a bit of this hell in this world as it surrounds us. We can scent it if we pay attention for it is one aspect of our humanity. This aspect of humanity (hell) - we must all walk past, and then kill it, sacrifice that animal, slaughter it, and do away with for good.
It causes us pain in this world as well. All of us must walk through it. The Prophets walked through it without igniting any flames. They passed away that aspect of them without eating of it's ugly headed tree.
I've had too much of it from my own good. Inshallah one day I will sacrifice it, slaughter it, and due away with it. Unfortunately, most of the world is that aspect of us. It's what is most important to be fed constantly to us most of the time. It reigns over our souls. It's made the Pharaoh of our souls, and Moses of our souls remains lost and oppressed within us.
If we can rise the pure word over it, that's a start. Make it obedient. And then one day, when ready, slaughter it. Then slaughter it, and again, and again.
For evil is it's residence and staying place.