(March 12, 2016 at 4:20 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:What are you appreciating? When a person does a good deed, what do you appreciate? The person and that state he was in right. But then you say his action doesn't even become part of him aside from a memory and forming part of his psychology. So you don't believe it adds value to that person truly and objectively.(March 12, 2016 at 12:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Yes, I thought when I disbelieved in God, I would be able to believe in objective praise/morality somehow. I couldn't. And I realized I could not truthfully have subjective praise without belief in objective praise.
I went through a crisis. I didn't want to believe in God simply because I wanted to. I had to know him to be true. The dark night of my soul was distressing.
I don't know about the praise stuff but I don't find I'm incapable of feeling reverence or awe or gratitude or many other things without belief in God. It isn't all that debilitating really.
Also, why is actually good? If it's just survival chemicals making us feel good....what makes it truly good to do an action or praiseworthy? Do we appreciate and praise simply the act because of it's benefits or is there a substance of praise? An essence of praise and value, we are valuing in that act?