(March 13, 2016 at 3:18 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(March 13, 2016 at 3:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's objectively immoral is no doubt part of that premise. When I am talking about morality, I'm talking about how it classically was defined. For example, a person says "That's the moral thing to do...", would mean he is talking about in a true sense. "I think this is moral, this is moral according to these people, etc..." is from the angle it's not necessarily true morality but a perception of morals that maybe true or not.
I'm not begging the question. I am not trying to prove morality is objective through this argument, I'm using such a belief to prove a Creator that is the source of morality. I'm trying to prove a eternal creator through it, that is the source of morality and that morality is eternal.
You've just defined a God who is a passive witness to morality. That's not the God of any JudeoChristian religion.
I don't understand what you are saying. Is Christian and Jewish God not the source of morality? I think you should watch what William Lane Craig says on the false dichotomy of the Euthyphro Dilemma and the third option he presents.
