(March 13, 2016 at 4:30 pm)Irrational Wrote:(March 13, 2016 at 4:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: No this thread was to show objective morality and God go together. That if you accept one, you accept the other. Or at least you should.
From what I've come to learn about the distinction between subjective and objective, there isn't really a clear one. It's just that a truth becomes objective when it fulfills a certain set of criteria established by consensus. But ultimately, most objective truths are at the core subjective.
So objective morality and God going together is not wrong to say but also not necessary. Human consensus is sufficient.
It's from what you heard.
Only subjective means that it's more of a taste, like "I think this Music is great" and another person says "I think it sucks". These are just expressing their tastes.
When you say "I believe this is wrong to do"..., it's subjective, but also objective if you are justified in that belief. Do people feel they know anything is 100% wrong for them to do for certain? I think so.
That means they ought to actually believe in objective morality.
In fact, it's because we do know. And we are guided by a light that binds us all. Saying that light is just produced by our brains or what not, is all a trial.
At the end of it, it's become manifest that love speaks a hidden language as well as a manifest language. We can speak somethings about it, but some of it is hidden. We all know what it is.
Love is morality. It's what it is. Sometimes it manifest in hate, but it's hate due to love. When ever we praise, appreciate, adore, all this is part of love.
The thing is I also believe in objective beauty. That is I believe love is objectively beautiful. God is the Loving source of all love, and created the different relationships of love. He is what gives everything it's creation because of he is light of all light.