(March 13, 2016 at 12:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(March 13, 2016 at 12:53 am)Irrational Wrote: What kind of discussions? I'm serious, what's the aim exactly? Just to be heard?
I'm not sure what you mean by "what kind of discussion."
What's the aim? Just to talk, share ideas, etc. It is a a thing, you know. Not everything has to be about debate, heated argument, or trying to change someone's mind. It's perfectly possible to talk about things you disagree with.
Quote:It seems you want us to not challenge what you say.
No, that's not what I said. I said I'm here to have discussions with people who aren't ass holes. That means nothing other than exactly what it says. Obviously you can be an ass hole if you want, but I'll probably stop responding to you if you are because that's not what I want. There are plenty of people here who are challenging me and being civil about it, and I'm perfectly fine with it.
Some of us would dispute that everyone who you have put on your ignore list at some point during the past week has been less than civil with you about it. A few of us were persistent with you, but we were more than civil. You kept saying you "believe" something when it isn't really the case. You don't really understand the difference between believing and accepting the ideas which you were taught.
You stated something which you believe, and it was challenged reflectively with an assessment on what that belief really says. It doesn't matter that you don't think of it that way, it's still a statement in support of a god who is, according to your own belief, too great to not be held culpable for the evil which he allows. Whether you deny that culpability or give him the excuse for being "God", this is not only illogical, but cruel, whether or not you see it that way.
One thing I'd like to point out on your expectation to state your beliefs on an atheist forum and not have them challenged is that this is a special privilege which you demand of us. Most atheists reject illogical arguments, and if we assert an idea which doesn't make sense to others, then we know we will be expected to present evidence for said assertions. We, which includes all of your guard-dog atheist friends here are not allowed to say "I believe", and just leave it at that, and those friends of yours are utter fools for defending your right to do that and go unchallenged.
I don't believe anyone owes you an apology for what we have attempted to point that out to you, which is why I haven't apologized. Keep me on ignore forever, and that makes you no better than the little girl who sticks her fingers in her ears and goes NO, NO, NO, I BELEIVE!!!" I've had enough of tap-dancing around that, and I suspect that you are here for the specific purpose of destroying this forum community. If that's your angle, then congratulations, you have succeeded! I, for one, have had enough of wasting my time here. I've got an actual life to live, it's the only one which I ever expect to have, and it's going nowhere while I waste my time on this site, which is going nowhere itself the more it allows people to insult thoughtful discourse like children. I know this has not been you, you have been gracious up until this week, and I am sorry about the words which were said of you personally by some, but shutting out everyone who participated in that challenge of your ideas is very childish. I do believe that everyone has the right to speak their minds and be treated respectfully when they treat others that way, but not for their ideas to be respected. You decided to keep on repeating your assertions, and to endlessly do that will endlessly provoke more "attacks". You don't have to agree with atheists, but you should know it's time to knock it off already when you aren't getting anywhere. That's my parting advice, because I've had enough already.
I can't take any more of going nowhere with this endless looping about which has become the nature of forums and blogs, not necessarily this forum nor most of the people here, although the policies here are way too lenient with trolls, allowing pointless threads to spin on long after they should have been shut down. Anyway, I need a break for awhile, need to get out of the house more, maybe see if the local atheist meetup doesn't have some cool people to get drunk with. Because I'm not really an asshole.
Goodbye, All, for now.
Mr. Hanky loves you!