RE: My views on objective morality
March 13, 2016 at 5:33 pm
(This post was last modified: March 13, 2016 at 6:26 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(March 13, 2016 at 12:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(March 13, 2016 at 12:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well, it is what we believe, but that doesn't mean it can't be objectively true.
I think I addressed this earlier on in the post - I also believe my husband loves me. I could be either right or wrong about that.
Subjectivity doesn't speak to the truth or falseness of a claim. It speaks to the basis of the claim, the epistemology of it.
Of course a subjective claim can be true. That doesn't mean it is any less subjective. In my subjective morality, murder is always wrong. That happens to coincide with your allegedly objective view. So clearly, you would agree that this subjective claim of mine is true, even though you might think I am right for the wrong reasons.
You seem to have this idea in your head that "subjective" automatically means "false". They aren't synonymous.
My understanding is that subjective means there is no right or wrong answer.
For example, I can say "the color pink is pretty"... that's subjective because it's an opinion. Other people can say pink is ugly, and they are not making an incorrect statement, assuming they actually think pink is ugly.
Or I can say "the earth is round"... that's objective because it is a fact. Other people can say the earth is flat, and they are making an incorrect statement by doing so. They can say all day long "the earth is flat, the earth is flat, the earth is flat", it doesn't matter what they think/say, they are still wrong.
....Objective morality, looks like the latter:
I can say "rape is evil"... that's objective because it is fact. Other people can say rape is good, and they are making an incorrect statement by doing so. They can say all day long "rape is good, rape is good, rape is good", it doesn't matter what they think/say, they are still wrong.
(Edited for a dumb mistake.)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh