Teach children about Jesus at a young age,

[Ben Davis]

It IS relevant, show me any known unethical methods that result in making someone a "loving person". If they don't exist then your point is moot.


ponder this for a second:

"what if setting a child on fire makes them a loving person?". See how stupid that sounds?

So produce a plausible example then I'll take you seriously.

OK, I'll address your derail once & once only. You're arguing from ignorance. Just because you can't imagine an abusive situation like this doesn't mean there aren't any. In fact, you need only talk to someone in any of the child protection services and they'll furnish you with a plethora of specific cases where parents have physically and emotionally tortured children to 'make them love & respect' them. It's frighteningly common and according to your criteria, it works: the method generates behavioural outputs which mimic 'love' however psychologists recognise those behaviours as a variety of psychological disorders. The example is not only plausible, it's demonstrable.

So back to the point that you've tried to dodge: you stated that you're happy with people being 'loving' with no regard to the reason why. Given the scenario above, do you understand why such disregard is unethical and acknowledge that your disregard permits harm?