RE: War crimes of the west
March 15, 2016 at 11:48 am
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2016 at 11:50 am by WinterHold.)
(March 13, 2016 at 8:21 am)Gawdzilla Wrote: Regarding the use of atomic bombs against Japan:
Both cities were the military capitals of their prefects. Hiroshima had nearly 90,000 soldiers in the city. The Minister of War had declared that all adult or nearly adult Japanese were soldiers, militarizing most of the population of each city. Both cities were centers of war material production.
And it was at Hiroshima Bay that Yamamoto anchored his flagship, Nagato, and waited for the results of his pet project, the raid on Pearl Harbor. Kismet this!
The place was crawling with civilians, the real display of how much you believe in the right of others to live; if you have a sense of justice, you will never bomb civilians if that would make you win the war.
Leave soldiers die. But don't mass kill like that. You think it's okay because it's a massacre in a modern way, bombs, jets and all?
It's like Richard the Lion Heart's massacres in the Levant, it's like defending that.
The military interest doesn't worth innocent human life, the soldiers are enough.
Chas
It's very ironic, since the word "semistism" is nothing more than a biblical concept:
Quote:from the biblical "Shem", : שם
So attacking the biblical reference is an insult to the sons of Israel since it touches their literal heritage.
What is semitic but a religious narrative?
The Valkyrie
I can't find a proper name, saying "the bad people in Europe who contributed to the M.E's death" is a very long; saying west -wa kalas- is so much better.
Anybody can get the big picture; I'm not generalizing. Good people exist everywhere.
Rhythm
It did prevent ancient Arabs from burying little girls; though.
I's your inner peace, and ultimate peace of mind.
Drich
Quote:That's not true Dresden was a Rail hub of what remained of Germany @ the end of the war. it was also one of the last remaining manufacturing strong holds of germany with 110 Operational factories that was continuing to support the war effort. Once Dresden fell the war ended with in a month. In short Dresden was the last city able to support the war effort.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of...rld_War_II
It's no different than cowardly Islamist fighters using mosks and schools to headquarter in. If the cowards hide behind civilians then the civilians have a responsibility to leave or be deemed combatants as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of...or_justifi
Did you read your own link, Drich?
You believing in one view, does not mean the debate is over and the correct statement is chosen
Quote:According to the historian Sönke Neitzel, "it is difficult to find any evidence in German documents that the destruction of Dresden had any consequences worth mentioning on the Eastern Front. The industrial plants of Dresden played no significant role in German industry at this stage in the war".[137][/url]
Quote:In the above artical it details the german defense. It was light as the war was comming to an end, but it was indeed defended. To say otherwise is an outright lie.
If the German army wanted this area defended, the 'Merica & Britain's airplanes, would've got it harsher and herder; with lots of casualties. We're speaking about "Germany" in the 40s; the Nazi army was capable of defending its interests.
This city was NOT defended because nobody thought, that the allies would be that mad to target refugees and civilians. That city had nothing but memorials, lots of refugees and civilian manufactures.
Actually, the allies missed "every single military camp" outside dresden.
Quote:Hiroshima was the LARGEST Japanese marsheling city for quick soldier and supply distribution incase of a main land invasion. There were several batiallions of men equipment and supplies at the time of the bombing. The reason being it was semi centrally located/hub city with roads and rail access that put it with in a day's travel of any planned invasion. Nagasaki was the Largest sea port in Japan whic not only allow the Japanese to receive provisions, but also served what was left of their navy. Which again makes it a military target. Not to mention The US dropped over 63 million leaflets warning the citizens of the comming bombs.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bom...d_Nagasaki
If their was ever a war crime committed it would be in the fire bombing of tokyo. Even Gen. LeMay said "we'd better win this war, because otherwise I will be hung as a war criminal."
I truly need to question your Christianity; even if you were an idol worshiper, where is your belief in God? so it's legal to kill innocent people if the "interest" is large enough?
I never asked for the military advantage of hitting something. I'm speaking about morals, taught by our lord. God.
Jesus peace be upon him, tried to show us the way, but people like you ended up wearing him as a neckless and negate every word he said: your hearts became harder than stone and crimes became so justified to you.
Ask Jesus -Peace be Upon Him- if he would push the button of dropping the payload, or wouldn't he..
Quote:Meh... One man's war crime, is another man's war.
And the other man's war, is the third man's lunch..big mac, super up-size, but we should avoid fats and extra callories because they interfere with our inner systems
And the third man's was which is a lunch, became the forth man's meal..cooked on the oven, not heated with microwave and khalas !!!
Quote:Maybe you should also include the drone attacks, smart bombs, Special forces strikes and everything else you think that gives the west a tactical advantage.
ah, the problem was never the technology; it was always the man behind the trigger.
FatandFaithless
No, I'm just re-mention it since its giving me a headache..the more I discuss, the more I understand things.
GawdZilla
Quote:It's called "war" for a reason. My job was to kill people and break things. I did it remarkably well.
You do everything people tell you to do?
Drich
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I did not ever think that any of you would EVER admit what you just said!!!
Oh ma gosh ! Busted !