Teach children about Jesus at a young age,

[Huggy Bear]

**trigger warning - domestic violence

It's not an argument from ignorance it's an argument from common sense. I never said that situation doesn't exist, I said that situation doesn't produce love;

But how would you know that it's love? You've said that you don't care about the reasons why the behaviour exists so you can't possibly know!

I know because I have a brain and can discern the difference between acts of love and fear.

To use another DV example, think of an abused wife, 'lovingly' attending to her family, hiding the fear & pain for the sake of avoiding reprisals. If you don't care about the reasons why she's 'loving', you'd not even be looking for signs of abuse; you'd just be taking the outward appearance at face value. After all, the results appear the same, right? It appears that your 'common sense' isn't so common or sensical.

*emphasis mine*
That is NOT love, love is unconditional.

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. - 1 John 4:18

and since you somehow believe that it's demonstrable, point me to that particular study.

There are hundreds in here. Educate yourself.

Look, all I need is one study that shows an instance of child abuse producing love. Your broad google search of "domestic violence child abuse studies" tells me nothing

I thing the phrase you're looking for is Stockholm syndrome, which has nothing to do with love, but fear.

But you don't care about that, you've said so already. It's enough for you that the end behaviours are consistent with 'loving'. And that's a great example of the problem that I have with your statement.

Oh but I do care, because that isn't love...

Love and fear exist on a much deeper spiritual/emotional level, you're focused on the "actions" of a person and not the state of their inner being. Love and fear are not actions.

for instance, feeding the poor out of love is one thing, and feeding the poor of of fear is a completely different thing, but the act of feeding the poor itself is not love.

And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. - 1 Corinthians 13:3