(March 17, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Rhythm Wrote:This game's fun but I'm a little busy to keep playing. I could keep listing things that involve change of states that persist over time and have effects, aka processing, and you can keep saying that your comp mind is a special snowflake. So why don't you say what's special about it in terms that cannot be applied to anything that doesn't for sure have mind, and be done with it?(March 17, 2016 at 1:18 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The state of an electron in its orbit IS changeable, and on multiple but discrete levels. And a galaxy is also processing, since the events that transpire in it affect what light leaves it: its intensity, its direction, etc.-that's all well and good but meeting one criteria for processing no more makes a processor out of an electron that being able to fly makes a bird out of a plane. It doesn't even -begin- to approach a comp system. The galaxy doesn't appear to be a processor either. If you insist on these grand equivocations you are unlikely to find knowledge at their terminus.
Quote:I use the meaning of the term in comp sci when referring to comp sci explanations of mind. You can equivocate upon other uses of the term all you like. My butcher processes meat, does that make his knife a computer? I think not.Still waiting for that non-arbitrary distinction.
Quote:As to post above, because I just can't help but comment; The evidence we have, and the system we have for asessing that evidence, leaves us no room but to conclude that brain accounts for mind.What about the brain? That's always been the question.