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A Thought from a Deist
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RE: A Thought from a Theist
Oh this is going to be fun.
Quote:How do you know the pilot did not push the engines past their safety point, responsibility the pilot.
No, sorry but that is wrong. Aircraft engines are designed to be able to be at full throttle for hours on end without failer. Also the designer of those engines must understand the forces and the environments the engine must endure. The best way to mess up an aircraft engine is either by flying through an ash cloud or rapid increase and decrease of the throttle. Aircraft engines should never catch fire and blow up, no matter how the pilot uses them. So if one does catch fire and blow up it would be the designer/builders fault. I haven't yet herd of an engine blowing up because of a pilot.
Quote:The designer would set limits on the engine and with the pilot pushing them past their limit
Yes aircraft engines have limits, but never should it catch fire and blow up! That would be a serious safety concern for everyone onboard!
Quote:NO! He created Lucifer an arch angel, Lucifer sinned and did not repent and so he was the creator of Satan,
God knew about all this before it happened though didn't he? He created Lucifer, he knew what was going to happen. So the question still remains, why design and create something that you know will turn against you?
Quote:God did not design man to sin that was man's choice
Yes he did! He knows everything, he designed us and created us and he knew what was going to happen, it's his fault!
I don't think theists understand 'all-knowing'. God knew long before he even designed man that we would sin. He knew long before it happened. Whatever happens to his design and creations is his fault entirely!
He's all knowing and all powerful, so there's no excuse!
Quote:God gave man freewill and man misused it
God gave us free-will and he knew what was going to happen. He made us sapient, allowing us to think for ourselves and of course when he refuses to show himself, we'll start questioning his existence.

Here's another way of looking at where the responsibility lies. Lets say I construct a paper airplane that I designed to fly perfectly from one side of the room to the other. My knowledge being great enough to create the perfect paper airplane for which will land on a table far on the other side of the room. Now if I gave it a mind of it's own for which I know it will go against my wishes, and not land on the table as I wished then that's my fault. I designed it that way and knowingly, this means it's my fault.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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A Thought from a Deist - by Cinjin - March 4, 2011 at 1:40 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Minimalist - March 4, 2011 at 3:06 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by KichigaiNeko - March 4, 2011 at 3:11 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by azharrison - March 4, 2011 at 3:36 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by ozgoat - March 4, 2011 at 4:43 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Zen Badger - March 4, 2011 at 6:00 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Rwandrall - March 4, 2011 at 6:31 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by reverendjeremiah - March 4, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Captain Scarlet - March 4, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by theVOID - March 4, 2011 at 2:57 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by reverendjeremiah - March 4, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by fr0d0 - March 4, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Zen Badger - March 5, 2011 at 8:07 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by fr0d0 - March 11, 2011 at 6:35 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Spectrum - March 4, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Skipper - March 4, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by The Omnissiunt One - March 4, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by reverendjeremiah - March 4, 2011 at 5:10 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by HeyItsZeus - March 4, 2011 at 6:40 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Godschild - March 4, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by theVOID - March 5, 2011 at 3:29 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Skipper - March 5, 2011 at 8:12 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Godschild - March 11, 2011 at 12:39 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Anomalocaris - March 11, 2011 at 2:36 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by reverendjeremiah - March 11, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Godschild - March 11, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by LastPoet - March 11, 2011 at 6:30 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Godschild - March 12, 2011 at 4:04 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Ace Otana - March 12, 2011 at 7:53 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Minimalist - March 4, 2011 at 9:30 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by padraic - March 5, 2011 at 3:49 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by tackattack - March 5, 2011 at 6:17 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Strongbad - March 5, 2011 at 10:53 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by downbeatplumb - March 5, 2011 at 10:56 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by reverendjeremiah - March 5, 2011 at 11:15 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Ubermensch - March 10, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Satyriasis - March 11, 2011 at 6:58 am
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by everythingafter - March 11, 2011 at 1:28 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by reverendjeremiah - March 11, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by everythingafter - March 11, 2011 at 2:04 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Ace Otana - March 11, 2011 at 6:28 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Rev. Rye - March 11, 2011 at 9:54 pm
RE: A Thought from a Theist - by Cinjin - March 12, 2011 at 5:35 am

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