(March 19, 2016 at 2:43 pm)bennyboy Wrote:You should be thankful there are people like me and others who are willing to help you out and show the way to better enlightenment...(March 19, 2016 at 12:44 pm)little_monkey Wrote: I'm trying to have an honest conversation, why would I want to attack you? I have no interest in ad hom. I'm just carrying your words to its logical conclusion. That might be brutal, but better than self-deception in my estimation.Mind as the experience of ideas and perceptions? Yeah, I must be crazy. Who'd describe mind like that?
If you define mind as you have, which is your definition, and many people will take exception with that definition, then you have a concept that has of little use - from my pov. "Subjective" experience can mean anything and nothing at all. Here's what I mean with a single example: Do trees experience love? You can talk about this endlessly without ever coming to a conclusion. Only because it can never be inquired with empirical methods. In my vocabulary, it's called a crackpot theory. And here's my definition of a crackpot theory: if your theory cannot be distinguished from a crackpot theory, then it is a crackpot theory. And what distinguish a good theory which describes the real world from a crackpot theory? A good theory is one that is supported by objective, verifiable evidence. So there you have my theory of crackpot theories. If you ever used this, I insist that you give me credit for it. I have absolute royalty rights on this theory...
Oh yeah. . . almost everybody. All us non-scientist bumpkins, with our crazy ideas like the importance of human experience. When will we learn?
