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"I disagree with you, but i don't think you're Hitler"
RE: "I disagree with you, but i don't think you're Hitler"
(February 22, 2011 at 11:19 am)Rwandrall Wrote: (WARNING: Rant)

I have seen an alarming trend around the Internet: atheists insulting theists for the purpose of insulting. I mean i have nothing against attacking and challenging their beliefs, but some of the things i see around there are not the educated argument of someone who wants to change their mindset. It is petty, it is useless, and it is simply humiliating as an atheist to see others who share my (lack of) beliefs partake in that behavior. Likewise, saying that being religious means being an enslaved sheep who doesn't question anything he's told is idiotic and does not further the discussion in any way.

I hate the stereotype that atheists are bitter, angry people who like to act superior and condescending to anyone who does not share their views...but the problem is i see a LOT of people corresponding to that precise stereotype.
Acting as though being an atheist makes them superior as human beings.

I agree with you, for certain reasons:

1. Atheists consider theists as idiotic people believing fairytales and stubborn, unwilling to listen, and they accuse them and dis-consider them for that. Theists consider atheists as idiotic people believing their fairytales and stubborn, unwilling to listen, and they accuse them and dis-consider them for that. That brings the question: How can you condemn a man that is doing X and Y if you also do X and Y?

By the way, I believe that many atheists have this view of theists and many theists have this view of atheists.

2. You can't educate a man by mockery: mockery makes others like you laugh and despise the mocked, while you fuel the mocked person with hatred, by this attitude. So the result is hatred, despise, violence, and perhaps even murder. Mockery DOES NOT open anyone's mind - neither the mockers' nor the mocked's mind - but, on the contrary, it is forcibly closing it, by using feelings (like hatred and despise) instead of reason and logic.

3. On the other hand, logic and reason are the only ones that can work (beside forcing one to believe what you believe by threatening that you would kill him, etc.). Not all are open-minded, not all are receptive, not all care, but some are.

4. This mockery and bad treatment of people is an argument used by the respectful opponent to justify himself: I do good and I am treated badly. So many people, both religious and atheists, have in front the two possibilities: to be like the ignorant, arrogant, mocker person, or like the good-intended, respectful person. So good-intended people would like to be like the respectful, good-intended person. However, if the respect and attitudes were reciprocal, reason would become the first priority.

5. I believe the objective should not be to convert the population of the world to your religion (or atheism). Until now all kinds of people and kingdoms and empires have attempted this, and the only result was useless war and violence, with no great result. So I don't think that it would ever be possible for all to have the same beliefs. And if the catholics, for instance, had done anything (like, killing, waging war against countries, etc.) to spread their beliefs, and we condemn them, I believe we shouldn't have the same attitude they had (seeing the others as worth hating and despising, less than humans, etc.)

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RE: "I disagree with you, but i don't think you're Hitler" - by Zenith - March 12, 2011 at 2:27 pm

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