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Evolution and Creationism
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RE: Evolution and Creationism
(March 20, 2016 at 2:36 pm)PerennialPhilosophy Wrote: So, lets start at the big bang. Immediately upon that explosion, the universe was doomed.

The big bang is not an explosion. The fact that you're that wrong, right away, does not bode well going forward. And the universe is only "doomed" if you assume that life is its sole purpose, and I don't think you can justify that. Without certain anthropocentric assumptions, the fact that the universe will run out of energy someday doesn't mean that it's doomed, just that it'll exist without energy.

Quote: Granted its going to take an inconceivable-to-our-fragile-minds amount of time, but still everything was meant to die.

"Meant to," presumes pre-designated purpose, which you haven't established.

Quote:Albeit this, there is a natural propensity for life to keep on living. This is the root of evolution, that life is fighting against itself. On one hand the universe was made to die, on the other it was designed to live. This difference between how things are and how things strive to be is ultimately irrational. It's the ultimate paradox. So my question is, how do you reconcile life on one hand being designed to end and on the other hand being designed to keep going on?

There's nothing to reconcile. Organisms are naturally selected for their ability to continue living, but the fact that they aren't perfect at this, and will eventually fail, doesn't mean there's a paradox. I mean, hell, even within the context of your claim here, you say the universe was "made to die," and if you think that, wouldn't that mean that the fact that life forms inevitably falter and die fits perfectly within that paradigm? You can live, you can resist, but eventually you'll fail because the universe was made to die?

I mean, you're straining a metaphor anyway, apparently in the service of a stupid tu coque fallacy, but it doesn't even work while taking the metaphor seriously.
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Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 20, 2016 at 2:50 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ApeNotKillApe - March 20, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by abaris - March 20, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by deleteduser12345 - March 20, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Nay_Sayer - March 20, 2016 at 3:08 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 3:19 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Nay_Sayer - March 20, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by deleteduser12345 - March 20, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ApeNotKillApe - March 20, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Whateverist - March 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by brewer - March 20, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Esquilax - March 20, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by brewer - March 20, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Esquilax - March 20, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 20, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ApeNotKillApe - March 20, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ApeNotKillApe - March 20, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Alex K - March 20, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Bob Kelso - March 20, 2016 at 9:51 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 21, 2016 at 2:17 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by downbeatplumb - March 21, 2016 at 4:38 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Whateverist - March 21, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 21, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ignoramus - March 21, 2016 at 5:52 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Brian37 - March 21, 2016 at 7:48 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by The Atheist - March 23, 2016 at 1:53 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 23, 2016 at 2:57 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Minimalist - March 23, 2016 at 2:00 am

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