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Evolution and Creationism
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RE: Evolution and Creationism
(March 20, 2016 at 4:31 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Another option: it operates as a blind complex structure running all on it's own, without a goal in mind; as a planet orbits a star, so does life perpetuate itself, for no reason whatsoever.

I refer to life in the blanket sense of the self-replicating mechanism, not individual living organisms.

Yeah I realized the stupidity in using the legal definition but that's how my mind works. But, humanity was a byproduct of this blind complex structure, and we give reason to it. When you refer to a car, you mean the entire vehicle including each piece, no matter how small because each constituent makes the whole. I know this is a leap of faith, but to me it seems more rational that this blind complex structure would create(whether "designed" or accidental does not matter, I am talking about the irrefutable* proof we exist) something that gives reason(or meaning, some purpose that ultimately isn't blind) to it, rather than the blind complex structure creating beings that are so irrational that, on one hand they can land a satellite on a comet, on the other hand historically roughly 99% of them have been giving it reason that does not exist at all. Obviously they can not all be right, but the basis of science is that learning is a process. I do not see how a blind structure is capable of making creatures with sight(metaphorically).

*irrefutable in the sense for this argument to happen we have to exist.
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Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 20, 2016 at 2:50 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ApeNotKillApe - March 20, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by abaris - March 20, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by deleteduser12345 - March 20, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Nay_Sayer - March 20, 2016 at 3:08 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 3:19 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Nay_Sayer - March 20, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by deleteduser12345 - March 20, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ApeNotKillApe - March 20, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Whateverist - March 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by brewer - March 20, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Esquilax - March 20, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by brewer - March 20, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Esquilax - March 20, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 20, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ApeNotKillApe - March 20, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ApeNotKillApe - March 20, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by PerennialPhilosophy - March 20, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Alex K - March 20, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Bob Kelso - March 20, 2016 at 9:51 pm
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 21, 2016 at 2:17 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by downbeatplumb - March 21, 2016 at 4:38 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Whateverist - March 21, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 21, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by ignoramus - March 21, 2016 at 5:52 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Brian37 - March 21, 2016 at 7:48 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by The Atheist - March 23, 2016 at 1:53 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by robvalue - March 23, 2016 at 2:57 am
RE: Evolution and Creationism - by Minimalist - March 23, 2016 at 2:00 am

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