Is Lack of Belief the Best You Can Do?
March 21, 2016 at 5:34 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2016 at 6:06 pm by LadyForCamus.
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(March 21, 2016 at 2:11 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(March 21, 2016 at 12:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: ...doesn't one's justified lack of belief, in and of its self, imply that anyone who does hold that belief is being unreasonable? I mean, are we not saying that loud enough?
That is not the take of Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens, to name three. Their standard is that people are obligated not to believe things for which they have not yet justified with supporting evidence. That notion implies that there was a time in each person’s life when they believed nothing at all. It holds people culpable for untrue beliefs they haven’t yet pondered and even irrational for holding true beliefs if they are insufficiently or wrongfully supported.
I don't think you understood what I meant, or I wasn't clear. What you just said above is exactly what I was trying to say.
But, pushing forward; I have a comment/question: I think one reason many atheists stop before gnostic atheism is because declaring knowledge that an unfalsifiable claim is false, is logically fallacious.
From your article:
Quote:It is possible to prove a negative by demonstrating a logical contradiction: there are no married bachelors, or square circles. Those paired concepts are mutually incompatible, and rule each other out. If the concept of god is incoherent, then the thing it points to can’t exist. And that’s the end of the story.
Furthermore, it’s possible to argue for a negative with an ‘absence of evidence’ argument. If X exists, I should expect to find evidence Z. If evidence Z isn’t found, X is not likely to exist. While not irrefutable, we don’t need it to be to say with a high probability that X doesn’t exist. If you think we do need it to be irrefutable to say X doesn’t exist, then you’re an infallibilist about knowledge, and I’ve already written about why that’s not a desirable position. Other arguments against the existence of a theistic god like the Argument from Hiddeness, Problem of Evil, and Argument of Divine Lies also deal significant blows to the probability of such a being existing."
So, if it can be argued that the existence of God is in fact falsifiable, might atheists feel more comfortable placing themselves in the "gnostic" category? What does everyone think?
Chad, what do you think? Is the author's reasoning satisfactory to consider God falsifiable?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.