Look, Felasco (and this is also directed toward Chad, who is a Christian). I don't know if you are a Christian, but I think it's reasonable to assume you're at least a theist based on your posts. (Please correct me if I am wrong).
All the philosophizing over mortal limitations, and the "nature of reality" in the world, will never be enough to get you to the God/s of organized religion. Felasco, if you are in fact a theist then I'm sure you have some at least vaguely outlined definition or personification of this being in your mind (of which you have used human reason to rationalize into existence, by the way).
When you expect a theist to "open their mind" to what could be "out there," you are really asking us to believe in your GOD. In order to believe in God (or anything) we must first define God, and this is where it starts to really fall apart. First, how can you define something that by your own assumption, we as humans can't even comprehend? Second, there exists NO coherent, unchallenged definition of God in the world. Where to even begin? Or am I left to invent my own definition based on what seems right to me within human reason and logic?
Sometimes I don't who is more annoying: our fundies with their shameless ad hoc arguments and apologetics, or our philosophers who hide behind text walls of vague pontificating, thinking that it gives their beliefs some kind of street-cred. They are happy to quote philosophers all day, but when someone brings up Adam and Eve or the crucifixion, they are nowhere to be found.
At least the atheists here are transparent about their positions...
All the philosophizing over mortal limitations, and the "nature of reality" in the world, will never be enough to get you to the God/s of organized religion. Felasco, if you are in fact a theist then I'm sure you have some at least vaguely outlined definition or personification of this being in your mind (of which you have used human reason to rationalize into existence, by the way).
When you expect a theist to "open their mind" to what could be "out there," you are really asking us to believe in your GOD. In order to believe in God (or anything) we must first define God, and this is where it starts to really fall apart. First, how can you define something that by your own assumption, we as humans can't even comprehend? Second, there exists NO coherent, unchallenged definition of God in the world. Where to even begin? Or am I left to invent my own definition based on what seems right to me within human reason and logic?
Sometimes I don't who is more annoying: our fundies with their shameless ad hoc arguments and apologetics, or our philosophers who hide behind text walls of vague pontificating, thinking that it gives their beliefs some kind of street-cred. They are happy to quote philosophers all day, but when someone brings up Adam and Eve or the crucifixion, they are nowhere to be found.
At least the atheists here are transparent about their positions...
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
