(March 26, 2016 at 12:52 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(March 26, 2016 at 12:35 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: If the standards exist objectively and god must hold and enforce those standards, then they are greater than he is, and he is not their source.
I'm sorry but what you said doesn't make sense. If they exist separately from God, then yes, I concede. Do they exist separately from God? No God is the Ultimate unity by which all these standards descend from, he being the ultimate standard. Everything is created through how it relates to God and his vision of himself with respect to that creation. He gives everything it's creation, then guides it to it's goal. He is the light of all light, by which his creation are guided by and towards. Morality, goodness, love, compassion, these are all names we make use of, describing somethings. None of these things, not on instance of creation, is separate from God.
Actually what he says makes perfect sense, your just arguing for a god dictated morality, not an objective morality.
Also to address the rest of your gibberish, if god gives everything to its creation and guides us to our goal, then all of the evils we experience must come from him. Doesn't sound like the "light of all light" or the source of morality and love.