(March 26, 2016 at 8:26 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(March 26, 2016 at 12:52 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm sorry but what you said doesn't make sense. If they exist separately from God, then yes, I concede. Do they exist separately from God? No God is the Ultimate unity by which all these standards descend from, he being the ultimate standard. Everything is created through how it relates to God and his vision of himself with respect to that creation. He gives everything it's creation, then guides it to it's goal. He is the light of all light, by which his creation are guided by and towards. Morality, goodness, love, compassion, these are all names we make use of, describing somethings. None of these things, not on instance of creation, is separate from God.
Ok, so you believe that God is the source of the rules, meaning that divine command determines right and wrong and there is no need for morality. That would be the first scenario I described, and it still isn't objective morality.
If you are arguing for Divine Command Theory, you are not arguing for objective morality.
It's not the case that he simply commands, rather he creates through the truth of his standards (divine names) which are based on his essence. He doesn't decide morality or create it from nothing. Neither does it exist separately from him or independent of him, but rather he is the standard.
