RE: My views on objective morality
March 26, 2016 at 10:02 am
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2016 at 10:07 am by Redbeard The Pink.)
(March 26, 2016 at 9:23 am)MysticKnight Wrote: It's not the case that he simply commands, rather he creates through the truth of his standards (divine names) which are based on his essence. He doesn't decide morality or create it from nothing. Neither does it exist separately from him or independent of him, but rather he is the standard.
Regardless of what linguistic hoops you jump through to get to "God determines what all the rules are," that system is still based on divine command because God dictates the rules; that isn't morality. You're still not arguing for objective morality.
Unless you're saying that there is another set of standards that he's getting those rules from, in which case that would be the objective source of the standard, not god. If God is also the source of those standards, you've just pushed the problem back a step: now he's arbitrarily deciding to use his own holiness as the standard and dictating that to us as rules. If he has to use himself as the standard, then whatever makes him do that would have to be higher/more powerful than him, and then that thing would be the reason for objective morality.
There is literally no way to get to objective morality from the god model unless there's a set of standards to which even god must adhere, which means that even in such a model, god still wouldn't be the source of the standards.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com


