(March 26, 2016 at 1:33 pm)robvalue Wrote: I would love anyone to give a real example of how morality "being objective" makes a practical difference, rather than it just being a value judgement made by individuals. An actual real life situation.
If there are no such examples, then it's merely screwing around with words and it doesn't really matter at all.
I've yet to hear of any. All I've had is someone describing how they would deal with moral dilemmas in a very scary way. A way that would make me afraid to be around them.
I'll give one example. Personally the issue of whether we should swallow our anger when we get angry, would be somewhat of an ambiguous issue. I would think evolution makes us react to our anger for various reasons and that there is nothing wrong with it necessarily. It just could have wrong applications.
But from Islamic literature, I've reflected over this issue, and I see that's always better to swallow your anger and then if you are going to say something or act, then to do so. There is Quranic verse describing those who possess understanding as almost always swallowing their anger. That's their norm. Whenever they get angry, they swallow their anger.
Of course, after practice and observance of this command, I found beauty in it as well as wisdom. Of course, that is not to say an Atheist cannot come to realize the wisdom and beauty of such a command. He can observe the honor in it as well.
But he can also be confused about it. I know while a Deist even though I believe in objective morality I was confused about this issue. That is why the clarification of this moral while realizing it's true, helps one understand a fundamental way. Of course belief in objective morality will make a logical argument for a clarification of key morals that human needs.
This trait has helped me gain respect among people and from saying things I might regret. I hope when I get married, I apply this command to my wife and never let Satan and his forces enter and ruin respect between us due to anger.