Proving God in 20 statements

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Oh dear god you actually used Gödel's incompleteness theorem to prove the impossibility of a theory of everything?

So incredibly wronger than wrong that I can't even

Remember, in 2002, Stephen Hawkings in "Gödel and the end of physics" came to the same conclusion. The incompleteness (or inconsistency) of axiomatic systems is inescapable.

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Yeah, kinda wondering which God the OP is going to prove.  If the analysis ends up on demonstrating the existence of the Wormhole Aliens revered by the Bajorans in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine it could be quite a wake up call for the Vatican . . . .

You're right! I haven't begun to discuss which God is proven. That's for another time.

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Yeah. It proves any god you like. Handy!

You're right! I haven't proven which God. Literally thousands, aren't there? There's more to this God business. But that's for another post.

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There are no uncaused things. : From Cosmological Arguments

Oops. Your very first premise has not been shown to be a tautology.

Sorry.

I'm not sure you know what a tautology is. But in any case, notes (i), (ii) and (iii) of the proof deal with issues about first cause.

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No uncaused thing except the uncaused thing which is very special and doesn't adhere to the whole point of the argument.

Note (iii) of the proof dealt with this: (iii) God is "first cause" by definition and therefore not needed to be caused; however, God still does not necessarily violate the premise that all things are caused because the premise allows for self-causation, which can be applied to God: God causes God to exist.

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I stopped at "there are no uncaused things" -- OP clearly hasn't heard of quantum fluctuations.

Note (i) of the proof dealt with this: (i) Critics often refer to Quantum Theory to show the possibility of something from "nothing" but in fact, at a minimum, a Quantum Vacuum is needed along with scientific laws. Hardly "nothing" I would say.

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I disagree with first statement. I even claim that it is not merely wrong, but meaningless as applied. Unless you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by cause and causation as it applies to the universe, I don't feel inclined to read on.

Notes (i), (ii) and (iii) of the proof dealt with this. You really didn't read on.

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Oh he means whatever fucking god he thinks is real.

You know these clowns.  They're all the same.

I didn't set out to prove a specific god. Thanks for calling me a clown. My wife and friends think I'm hilarious.