Proving God in 20 statements

[Redbeard The Pink]

Look dude...you can put new shoes on an old whore, but she's still gonna walk with a limp.


The First Cause argument is not good, it is not new, and you have not improved on it. It still has the exact same problems it's always had.

The problem with the first cause argument is that it can be thought of as circular in that it begs the question of an external cause. My argument does not do that. Only a causation is needed. Internal or external. This was explicitly stated in Note (ii) of the proof. However, the proof itself isn't a first cause (cosmological) argument. If anything it is more aligned with ontological arguments. But even then, it skips over the criticism of an appeal to infinity as an abstract concept since infinity is itself necessarily proved within the proof itself. In other words, infinity CANNOT be abstract because it necessarily exist for an ultimate explanation of the Universe. This also was explicitly stated in the Notes to the proof; Note (vi). So, yes, I have materially improved on both the cosmological and ontological arguments.

No, you really haven't. I read your proof, I read the notes on it, and no...it's not an improvement.


For one thing, you keep insisting the Universe would require something infinite to cause it, and yet I see no evidence of that assertion. You also claim that your argument provides proof that something infinite must exist, and yet there is no evidence for that assertion either. You simply keep asserting these things and then pointing back to the "proof" as if we just didn't read it enough.


Well, I did read it, and it doesn't prove anything except that you don't know how to prove that things exist.