(April 1, 2016 at 5:03 pm)smfortune Wrote:(April 1, 2016 at 5:02 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: ... and if it's true, what caused the Causer?Note (iii) of the proof dealt with this: (iii) God is "first cause" by definition and therefore not needed to be caused; however, God still does not necessarily violate the premise that all things are caused because the premise allows for self-causation, which can be applied to God: God causes God to exist.
If things can be self-caused, then your god isn't necessary, and your "proof" is self-refuting.
There's nothing worse than ad hoc logic. Wouldn't you be better off counting daisies or something?
