Mind is the brain?

[little_monkey]

OFC computation is part of the myriad interactions going on all over the universe...not even wrong...but still insufficient.  I'm not discussing -all the myriad interactions in the universe-.  Only those that fit the definition of a comp system, because those interactions are the ones I would suggest as candidates for mind.

Okay, let's take as an example of a comp system a computer.  I believe you would call a computer a computer, or am I still assuming too much?

How much of that box sitting on my desk is the computer as it fits your definition, and how much is just stuff?  Surely the case and power supply, while important, are not part of the computer as you define it, right?  How about a hard drive?  How about a hard drive that is connected, but is empty and never accessed?

Given that in theory, parts could be arranged to contact each other directly, would you include the metal traces on the motherboard?  How about the pins on a chip of RAM?

If you look at a RAM chip under a microscope, most of the electronic pathway is simply transmitting a signal, and is not storing information or processing it in any way.

In fact, if you look at all the material in a computer, maybe 1% or less actually does any of the things you claim a comp mind does.  So let me ask you again: is my computer a computer, by definition?  Or is it 1% computer + 99% "just stuff" ?

 Your computer is 100% stuff. What makes your computer a computer is the software - a set of instructions in the form of 0's and 1's. Without that, it's good for strap...

Every system has unprovable truths (Godel's incomplete theorem). In math, you have axioms (unprovable truths) and theorems (provable truths). In science, you have hypotheses (unprovable truths) and theories (provable truths). This is true in every system produced by the mind, whether it's math, science, philosophy, art, any of the social sciences, etc. Your mind cannot escape that.