RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
April 4, 2016 at 10:01 am
(This post was last modified: April 4, 2016 at 10:03 am by Mystic.)
I find in speaks volumes Quran never says to women not to inherit men against their will (meaning not to marry them against their will or force sex on them) but it does tell men not to do that to women.
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا يَحِلُّ لَكُمْ أَنْ تَرِثُوا النِّسَاءَ كَرْهًا ۖ وَلَا تَعْضُلُوهُنَّ لِتَذْهَبُوا بِبَعْضِ مَا آتَيْتُمُوهُنَّ إِلَّا أَنْ يَأْتِينَ بِفَاحِشَةٍ مُبَيِّنَةٍ ۚ وَعَاشِرُوهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ ۚ فَإِنْ كَرِهْتُمُوهُنَّ فَعَسَىٰ أَنْ تَكْرَهُوا شَيْئًا وَيَجْعَلَ اللَّهُ فِيهِ خَيْرًا كَثِيرًا {19}
[Shakir 4:19] O you who believe! it is not lawful for you that you should take women as heritage against (their) will, and do not straiten them in order that you may take part of what you have given them, unless they are guilty of manifest indecency, and treat them kindly; then if you hate them, it may be that you dislike a thing while Allah has placed abundant good in it.
Where in Quran has it ever told women if they hate men, that perhaps they dislike a thing but that God has placed abundant good?
Where? No where? Because there hardly exists any women who actually hate men. They may say "I hate men..." but they aren't serious about it. The Quran however shows this "then if you hate them" ie. which is implied if they think they can force them against their will or not treat them kindly, is something that God out of choosing infinite possible words he can reveal to humanity, had to emphasize that perhaps some men or a lot of men don't see the good God has placed in a woman. They don't give her true value while God has placed abundant good.
No Quran doesn't see men and women as the same, and is sexist by western standards in the sense it gives them different roles...but it recognizes that this phenomenon of women being belittled by men, treated unkindly due to not seeing what is good in them, was a reality.
Now despite this clear verse, you very well know hadiths allow forced sex with slaves (ie. inheriting them and making them into mothers of your children against their will. Despite this clear verse, some women were abused in the name of religion of Islam and you know this.
It had to go out of it's way not to say to not try to straight them to take money from what you have given them.
Why does it never say such a thing to women?
Because the abuse of women's rights exist.
I'm not saying Islam is egalitarian or is the ideal of most feminists out there, but it to came to establish justice and equity which includes yes women rights which aren't recognized and are still not recognized by too much people.
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا يَحِلُّ لَكُمْ أَنْ تَرِثُوا النِّسَاءَ كَرْهًا ۖ وَلَا تَعْضُلُوهُنَّ لِتَذْهَبُوا بِبَعْضِ مَا آتَيْتُمُوهُنَّ إِلَّا أَنْ يَأْتِينَ بِفَاحِشَةٍ مُبَيِّنَةٍ ۚ وَعَاشِرُوهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ ۚ فَإِنْ كَرِهْتُمُوهُنَّ فَعَسَىٰ أَنْ تَكْرَهُوا شَيْئًا وَيَجْعَلَ اللَّهُ فِيهِ خَيْرًا كَثِيرًا {19}
[Shakir 4:19] O you who believe! it is not lawful for you that you should take women as heritage against (their) will, and do not straiten them in order that you may take part of what you have given them, unless they are guilty of manifest indecency, and treat them kindly; then if you hate them, it may be that you dislike a thing while Allah has placed abundant good in it.
Where in Quran has it ever told women if they hate men, that perhaps they dislike a thing but that God has placed abundant good?
Where? No where? Because there hardly exists any women who actually hate men. They may say "I hate men..." but they aren't serious about it. The Quran however shows this "then if you hate them" ie. which is implied if they think they can force them against their will or not treat them kindly, is something that God out of choosing infinite possible words he can reveal to humanity, had to emphasize that perhaps some men or a lot of men don't see the good God has placed in a woman. They don't give her true value while God has placed abundant good.
No Quran doesn't see men and women as the same, and is sexist by western standards in the sense it gives them different roles...but it recognizes that this phenomenon of women being belittled by men, treated unkindly due to not seeing what is good in them, was a reality.
Now despite this clear verse, you very well know hadiths allow forced sex with slaves (ie. inheriting them and making them into mothers of your children against their will. Despite this clear verse, some women were abused in the name of religion of Islam and you know this.
It had to go out of it's way not to say to not try to straight them to take money from what you have given them.
Why does it never say such a thing to women?
Because the abuse of women's rights exist.
I'm not saying Islam is egalitarian or is the ideal of most feminists out there, but it to came to establish justice and equity which includes yes women rights which aren't recognized and are still not recognized by too much people.