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What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 8:30 am
What could a omnipotent God possible want with human worship? I mean he's supposed be basically omni-all with or without us, so why spent so much time and energy obssessing over and obtaining human worship. He is so obsessed, that when he has ten rules to give humans the first three are devoted to him. So again I reiterate the title.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 8:39 am
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(November 20, 2014 at 8:30 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: What could a omnipotent God possible want with human worship? I mean he's supposed be basically omni-all with or without us, so why spent so much time and energy obssessing over and obtaining human worship. He is so obsessed, that when he has ten rules to give humans the first three are devoted to him. So again I reiterate the title.
Just imagine the guy omnipotent(*) and with an ego the size of the universe. Those are not mutually exclusive if you ask me.
(*) of course, I don't really believe that there exists a meaningful consistent definition of what omnipotence is such that it deserves the name.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 9:03 am
(November 20, 2014 at 8:30 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: What could a omnipotent God possible want with human worship? I mean he's supposed be basically omni-all with or without us, so why spent so much time and energy obssessing over and obtaining human worship. He is so obsessed, that when he has ten rules to give humans the first three are devoted to him. So again I reiterate the title.
Omnipotence is an interesting concept. Averroes the Islamic Philosopher posed the question 'Is it possible for god to deny himself?' again, invoking the question of Omnipotence (albeit a more refined version of the paradox).
The Theological answer appears to be that god can only do anything within his nature, that is to say, he cannot make 1+1=3. A position reiterated more recently by the Pope, when he said, 'god is not a magician'.
I think all of this is the culmination of years of Theological debate and discussion that has come to a head in this significant shift in Theological positioning, god is no longer the almighty.
If we accept this repositioning of Christian Theology, then any paradox inherent in the concept of Omnipotence, is rendered moot.
A neat bit of re-branding of god worthy of the most devious ad-agencies. God is a commodity that must survive come what may, it would seem that god needs us to survive, just as predicted by the Holy Prophet, Terry Pratchett.
MM
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 9:04 am
Every tyrant needs people to worship him. It's in their blood.
According to scripture, he has created this playground of his. So he wants all the fun he can get out of his amusement park.
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 9:55 am
What do we want with children? Why do we care for them? why do we love them? Why do we spend our lives devoted to them in one form or fashion?
We are made in God's image, meaning we share emotion value and even a sense of need. If you can relate to how we desire to bind with our kids you might have some sense as to why God would want us to share a bond with Him.
The rules He provides (and subsequent attonement) are used as a sift. To seperate those who do want to share such a bond and those who do not.
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 10:00 am
Drich, you do know that our desire to care for our children is a very simply understood evolutionary trait which is shared by all other animals. It has nothing to do with our being in some divine being's image.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 10:10 am
(November 20, 2014 at 9:55 am)Drich Wrote: What do we want with children? Why do we care for them? why do we love them? Why do we spend our lives devoted to them in one form or fashion?
We are made in God's image, meaning we share emotion value and even a sense of need. If you can relate to how we desire to bind with our kids you might have some sense as to why God would want us to share a bond with Him.
The rules He provides (and subsequent attonement) are used as a sift. To seperate those who do want to share such a bond and those who do not.
Are you really that blind to what is happening in the world outside your tiny window on it?
MM
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 10:13 am
Most human parents don't hide from their kids and communicate through a poorly-written note that they dictated to someone their kids never met.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 10:31 am
(November 20, 2014 at 10:13 am)Tonus Wrote: Most human parents don't hide from their kids and communicate through a poorly-written note that they dictated to someone their kids never met.
We also don't have a habit of throwing toddlers out the door because they keep doing bad things, despite knowing what the word "no" means.
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RE: What could a omnipotent God want with the worship of humans?
November 20, 2014 at 10:31 am
Worship is compensation for God's tiny penis
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