(April 4, 2016 at 8:14 am)bennyboy Wrote: Look, you are deliberately avoiding answering the salient point: what, exactly is needed for your comp mind? What part of the computer, what part of the brain? What part of those systems is minimally sufficient in establishing the functions you claim are comp mind? I'm not saying a computer is "just stuff." I'm saying that much of the thing sitting under my desk is "just stuff" and is not intrinsic to the processes you are claiming for comp mind. This means that my computer is NOT, in its entirety, a computer in the sense that you mean it-- any more than my room would be a computer just because computing happens to be going on inside it.
Let me ask you this: the power for my computer comes from a coal-burning facility elsewhere in Korea. Is this part of the computer? How about the power lines? How about the fuel which provides the energy? Are the criteria for comp mind really just a nice-looking box that we can call a "thing?" How about the internet connection? What about satellite connections, in which there's no direct physical connection at all? How about the sun, which ultimately provides all the energy used to operate my computer? Is the sun a part of my computer?
All of that stuff is part of the computer, but without the software, all of that stuff isn't a computer.