smfortune Wrote:Thanks guys (and gals) for taking the time to respond.
For those arguing the no uncaused things /quantum fluctuations, etc. premise, this was addressed in notes (i), (ii) and (iii) of the proof.
I'll keep checking back for more responses.
Oh, I did copy and paste the proof from my own website (which I can't post here as I'm a newbie). I do explain more on the proof and Gödel there (the website).
Thanks for not being a one-hit wonder.
Addressing something isn't the same thing as proving it. The quantum vacuum may well be the closest to absolute nothingness that is possible. People make a great to do about 'why is there something instead of nothing?', but philosophical nothingness may be impossible and there's no particular reason to think it's the default condition. It's not really legitimate to start with what we know (things exist) and reason that therefore there must be a state where no things exist and that this state of nothingness itself requires no proof or evidence. Not only would such nothingness have no quarks or quantum vacuum, it would have no space or time...and nothing to prevent something from happening. Doesn't sound like a stable situation, an if anything ever happened, it would happen instantaneously, because no time.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.