smfortune Wrote:Quote:Your colorful language is quite indicative. However, there is an escapable "bullshit": either God is self causing or the Universe is self-causing. Remove God and your still left with a first cause problem.
Not that anyone has ever proven there IS a first cause problem. We might not like infinite causation, but that doesn't mean it's not the case.
But for the sake of argument, I'll assume it isn't. That still leaves you with an argument from ignorance. Me not knowing definitively how the universe got started, or more to the point, how whatever turned into our universe got started; has zero bearing on whether your contention that God started it is correct. 'I don't know' is a better answer than 'God did it', because I know it's the truth.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.