Mind is the brain?

[bennyboy]

CTM would tell you that the human brain is the object of interest in the human system.  It's stuck with the evidence available, rather than your daydreams about matter-mind.  It's not the comp theory of fingers and toes.  Or the theory of nose mind.  Another "no shit" statement, regardless.  

That's a strange strawman. You keep pretending I'm saying stuff has mind that I haven't said has it. I'm saying the exact opposite: that much of the systems you are pointing to does NOT allow for mind, and that you aren't doing a sufficient job of establishing mindful systems. Waving at the brain will never be sufficient, until you can show exactly what about the brain allows for mind.

CTM doesn't "wave at the brain", it attempts to explain how the brain works in the first place.  But who cares, because here you are now making tiny slices and divisions for subjective experience of ideas that you will not allow for any other proposition.  Whatever happened to "it's all just stuff and arbitrary lines"....?

That's still what I'm saying. Parts of the brain do not allow for mind, but since they are in the same approximate location, you wave toward the entire brain. You might as well wave toward my entire bedroom.

Nothing, it only shows that your previous claim was woefully incorrect, why?  However, as to the question -I'd explain it to you, again, but since you won't allow that comp systems exist to begin the discussion in the first place...I'm afraid it's pointless, and more than a little bit absurd.  Not that you can elaborate, ofc, until things can be themselves rather than "just stuff/all the stuff/the same stuff".   Until such a time as you can consistently and -specifically-  describe what you are referring to by subjective experience, no rational or informative discussion can be had regarding your question.  When you do decide that things can be assigned identity again, as you did above, you can no longer object in the manner that you have.  So I guess you have a decision to make.

If you wanted to know where graphics came from, you wouldn't just wave your hand at a computer. You'd have to identify the graphics card, and explain what about it allowed for light patterns to be presented on your screen. Unless you want to define "graphics" as "everything computers do," then you have to provide actual details. Of course, you are pretty much doing that: defining "mind" as "everything brains do." Either that, or you're aware your theory says very little about what neural systems allow for mind, and are just dodging the issue.