(April 5, 2016 at 9:21 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:(April 5, 2016 at 7:37 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: No such thing. Therefore the rest of your paragraph is invalid because it's central point is based on this falsehood.
We are all souls. It's basically our energy that never dies and inhabits our human form for our brief life. Examples would be poltergeists" that still are in the earthbound realm and can interact with objects£. Basically people who have died, but still cling to the physical world and haven't passed into the various spiritual realms yet$. I've heard many stories from people I know about strange things happening in their house%. Think I already talked about this but one women who's son committed suicide would have strange things happen in her home afterwards^. She would walk into her kitchen and see her trashcan lid on a swivel spinning around&. Science hasn't progressed enough to study this yet*. We are still at the stage of dismissal as the easier explanation(.
" Poltergeists don't exist. We have absolutely no confirmed evidence of them.
£ What doesn't exist cannot interact with what does exist.
$ There is no spirit world, because there are no spirits for it to exist for. As I said previously there are no souls. In this case spirit=soul so spirits have the same non-existence as souls.
% They are stories, the people who told you them could have lied, hallucinated, inflated minor events, imagined them, dreamt them and so on. But you've not heard one story which was genuinely the cause of a ghost.
^ This is nonsense. Have you any evidence of strange things happen? Has her story been independently verfied? Has it been tested for repeatability and predicability? Unless you can show me all this, your story about "one women [sic]" is lying nonsense.
& She was partaking of strong peyote methinks, or she lied to you.
* Of course it fucking has. Remember the AWARE study? And science has proposed plenty of natural occurences (which have been shown to exist) which can explain any of the "supernatural" shit you keep bringing up. If, for example, your "one women [sic]" was genuine in believing these things happened, she could have been suffering from delusions brought on by ptsd from losing her son so tragically, or suffering from sleep paralysis, or as I said in my previous point partaking of hallucinogenic substances.
( Yes we are at the stage of dismissal, in the case of your explanations and any other "supernatural" ones, because we have plenty of natural explanations which have been verified, yet no single "supernatural" explanation has been validly observed or verified to explain these events. And as is their nature natural events are easier to explain than "supernatural" ones because they agree with reality whereas "supernatural" ones don't.
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