(April 6, 2016 at 9:23 am)Little Rik Wrote: Most atheists say that most Theists do not believe in science.
I do Wind.
I believe in science.
I observe mother nature and by understanding how it works i draw conclusions.
It is also important to guess what make sense and what doesn't.
Human body is made of consciousness and energy.
Even a demented idiot would get that point.
In nature there is a continuum.
That means that the evolution follow similar patterns.
The elements are the same.
The only differences are that the evolved creature is bigger in consciousness but the
elements that compose the creatures are the same.
They are all made of energy and consciousness.
No exception to the rule.
Animals are conscious.
Plants too as we can see from plants searching for better conditions such as climbers.
And why not matter and all other elements that compose the universe?
Energy is everywhere but as we can not perceive consciousness in matter we find difficult
to believe that there is any.
Unfortunately few people understand that consciousness is at different stages of awareness
in different forms of life.
We as humans have more consciousness than animals a lot more than plants and infinitely
more that matter which consciousness lie in a latent stage.
The word latent is not the same as dormant but rather is existing but not yet developed or manifest.
One thing that appreciate from you is your honesty (in this case)
You admit that so far you or the current theory do not know.
I do believe that the trigger is the awakening of consciousness not just because yoga say so but
because it make sense.
Darwin theory that survival is the trigger doesn't make any sense.
Matter doesn't need to survive
Uranium and other forms of energy are released regardless
People learn things regardless of whether these things are important to survive or not so
Darwin theory is faulty while yoga theory make sense.
4) Atheists do not know whether reincarnation is needed in order to progress
from lower species to higher one.
There is no evidence supporting reincarnation.
Yes there is Wind.
NDEs have never been disproved even by the biggest study ever held by Dr Parnia.
And NDEs go hand in hand with reincarnation.
Not one or two people had these experiences but thousand of them.
http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/...counts.htm
And what part of NDEs didn't originate in the brain? http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Near-death_experience Scroll down to the scientific explanation section. (Didn't care to do more research and add more links since I know you're batshit crazy (no offense) and NDEs are bs).
Also consciousness originates in the brain, there's nothing special about it. You speak as if consciousness is something special, it's nothing more than neurons etc communicating. *whispers* "Apophenia" *whispers*
(April 8, 2016 at 10:30 am)Little Rik Wrote:(April 8, 2016 at 8:07 am)BenMighty Wrote: The main reason that I'm an Athesit is because I don't need God. I don't need someone to show me "the way", I don't need someone to help me with my problems, especially not from some imaginary creature. If I have a goal or a "need" for something I will try to achieve it myself, with my own will and my own determination.
I have heard this before Ben the mighty.
But the time will come when you will need to do big things and when this time will come you will need a lot of help.
Without external help we are powerless.
I am sure that when you will have solved your material problems you will want to solve your physical one
and when you will have solved your physical one you will want to solve the problem of the mind and after that you will realize that all your mighty will not suffice to solve the problem within like to find peace of mind.
Once you will reach this stage a new awareness will take over your intellect and you will change all your
philosophy in realizing that all your mighty is totally worthless and you really will have to change your
atheistic attitude.
Your incredibly weak mentality doesn't apply to everyone.