Mind is the brain?

[bennyboy]

Now you're just tossing out fallacies hoping one sticks.  

You're claiming a fallacy fallacy? What color pot are you, then?

You are arguing, again, against the existence of computers.  The proposed mechanism is computation of representations based upon sense data.  The experience of an isolated system (connected to it's own sensory, rather than that of another) would be necessarily subjective, though we could probably engineer that out in a machine mind.  At least, it would be easier to give it some other type of experience than it would be to alter our own, at present.  

I'm arguing against your composition fallacy, and have always been. You need to identify, physically speaking, exactly what constitutes a computer, and why you think it can experience anything subjectively. So far you have: computers store data 'n' stuff, therefore. . . mind! This really isn't much of a step up from theism, IMO. Your system needs some actual physical details, or it's as woo a philosophy as any other woo philosophy.

I'd point to material interaction and computation, both known and demonstrable, as to the possible why/how (ignoring that I don't think the term applies).   I have zero interest in the why and how, as I attempt to explain to you a theory concerned with nothing -other- than the why or how?   What sort of objection is that?

You have explained neither. All you've done is begged the question and proclaimed an ontology.

-Everything- is what we say it is Benny.  We're the only ones coming up with words.   We use the word table to describe things we didn't make as well.  What's the problem of subjective experience in context, and why -would- the universe know anything?  

No. Some things are our constructions, and some things aren't. You can choose whatever word you want to represent mind, but you don't get to define mind other than as it is-- at least not if you want to talk about anything important.

Fields....lol.  Benny, why on earth would you state, from a computer...to a person advocating comp mind, that we have no idea how a composite physical system is unified?  We obviously do have -some- idea as to how to accomplish that.   Personally, I think that our mind is our brain, as I've repeatedly stated, so the question of where/what seems odd.

Okay, you have an idea. Great. Say what it is, and I will be suitably enlightened, and we can move on to other discussions.

*beings holding breath*