RE: Immigration
March 30, 2011 at 8:16 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2011 at 8:17 am by lilphil1989.)
(March 30, 2011 at 7:25 am)tackattack Wrote: 1) Why would you want to move into a Country because it espouses "freedom" and "equality" and in the process of petitioning directly attack the sense of patriotism of said country?
There's really no link between freedom/equality and patriotism. This is a common fallacy put forward by authoritarians. "If you don't support your country's every action, you don't believe in freedom"
It's complete nonsense.
Quote:I appreciate diversity and cultral recognition, but why do we need terms like xxxxxxx-american? If you were born in America, or are a nationalized citizen, wouldn't you just be american? I understand that a persons culture and heritage are important to the crux of who they are, but if you're going to change the culture of the territory you move to, why move? Is opportunity worth sacrificing a little personal pride and public heritage (not private)? Is there a cost/ sacrifice for moving to the US? Should there be?
So...
"I appreciate diversity and cultural recognition... *statement about cultural diversity being a bad thing* "
What?
In England we have a joke about Daily Mail readers that whenever they start a sentence with the phrase "I'm not racist, but..." it's invariably followed by a racist statement. This paragraph really reminded me of that.
If you want to speak against cultural diversity, fine, of course you have the right to do that, but don't be dishonest by preceding it with a false statement in an attempt to artificially make your position sound more socially acceptable.
Quote:2) What's the big deal about border enforcement? If someone breaks into your house with the intent to make it their own, and you had a gun, wouldn't you shoot them? In my opinion do it all the way or not at all, stop half assing everything. Opinions?
No, because my house is insured, if someone tries to squat, I'm covered for that. So I have to live somewhere else temporarily. So what? I'd much rather that than live the rest of my life as a murderer.
Secondly, the analogy is flawed anyway. If someone "makes your house their own", you can't live there anymore. Not so with immigration.
Ownership of a house is very simple, by one person. The running of your house can be controlled by you alone. Not so with a country, that's called a dictatorship, and they tend to be rather unpleasant places to live.
Are you seriously advocating killing in the name of protecting an arbitrary line on a map?
Galileo was a man of science oppressed by the irrational and superstitious. Today, he is used by the irrational and superstitious who claim they are being oppressed by science - Mark Crislip
