Pornography - are you for or against it and why?

[theVOID]

1- It's an 1858 word and erotica has been around far far longer than that. They used the word as a desciptor to write about unseemly prostitutes to elicit a sexual reaction.

They may have once, that's hardly the case now - Pornography has no implication that the woman is a prostitute.

My point was there was no need for the originating mentality based on class, that by default some people are better than other and have the right to judge others for their lifestyles.

You don't think there should be a distinction between nude semi sexual art (erotica) and sex on film? I think the distinction is perfectly reasonable.

I said I didn't oppose anyone doing it.

Good.

I contribute to art galleries and artists that display erotica (That's not my soul measure of quality, but it's not a hinderance).

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I agree that people should be able to participate in the consensual trade of their choosing, with a semblance of safety and in a taxable free market, without being stereotyped. Theory is one thing and practice is another, if you're a hooker or a porn star, you're not going to be perceived as an upstanding citizen most places.

That's the problem of a largely biases, self righteous and judgmental population, letting these biases get in the way of the evaluation is a problem.

The question is which will change views first or easiest, true societal equality or natural human sexuality? I just figure it's easier to change what society feels is attractive would be easier to change than universal equality.

Porn stars are treated fairly under the law already, prostitutes aren't - As if filming it makes it okay - absolute nonsense in my opinion, they should both be free to do whatever they like as long as they do not impose on others. We could far more easily change the laws to allow this than we could convince people to like it, that's exactly what we should do - Having laws based on such obvious biases cannot be a good thing.

2-It is in err to not believe that a vast majority or adult males, by the very nature of natural mate selection , prefer young, clean attractive females.

I'd assume that is true, but young adults, as in 18-26.

If you feel society in general, and particularly pornography, doesn't feed that culturall biased archetype, you should take a look at a porn site. I used to be addicted to porn (yes I said it's an addiction and not a choice) and if you look at a majority of the sites you'll have at least 5-8 entire categories of fetish relating to younger women.

It can be an addiction in the same sense that gambling can be. Glad you're over it.

As for catering to people who like young women, so what? Even if the women are dressed to look younger than 18, which I've seen relatively infrequently, it is still not pedophilia. Do I find it a bit creepy? More and more as I get older. Do I think that we should ban it in any way? Absolutely not. Find me a causal link and I'll change my mind, though it seems to me far more likely that this acts as a satisfiers to desires people have that would be absolutely abhorrent to satisfy - We cannot control people's desires nor punish them for having such, so if they can satisfy themselves via illusory porn like that then it can only be an ultimately useful tool.

A natural attraction to young WOMEN(18-21), is a far cry from pedophelia, but it reenforces an unproductive societal archetype.

No, in reinforces a reality - That men tend to like younger women. It's not in any way unproductive, desire satisfaction is beneficial, even when the satisfaction is purely mental it is often enough.

For those that do cross that line you can't say constant input of categorically sexually stimulating material does form some substance of that drive.

Yes I can, because you are merely asserting that porn focused on younger looking actresses causes sexual desire for children, I find that to be nonsense. A guy being attracted to women 18-21 is perfectly reasonable and implies no one iota that he will be latter "driven" to a sexual attraction for children. Even people who do already have a sexual desire for children, watching young adult actresses is absolutely preferable to their fulfilling their actual desire.

Also, if you think that pornography addicts aren't the driving primary force behind demand for child pornography (at some portion of the whole group) then I feel you're out of touch.

I think Pedophiles are the driving primary force, not just the general 'porn addicts', some of them are likely porn addicts, this is almost certainly because they have no physical means to satisfy their desire and not because of some causal link.

-side note: If my anology were false, it's at least both based on levels of sexual addiction, not apples and oranges as was yours.

You are claiming a causal link that is better explained by a correlation through desire satisfaction.