(April 14, 2016 at 4:13 pm)RozKek Wrote: I never said NDEs aren't real, I said that there is nothing miraculous, special, holy or immaterial about them and they only originate in the brain, and I provided a link which provides scientific explanations to what causes them.
Roz.
You read hundreds of NDEs experiences and each and everyone of them tell you the opposite.
They all say that the brain is 100% OFF during that time and the consciousness is 100% ON.
Go and ask your expert whether they ever had an NDE.
They did not so how they suppose to be expert then?
http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/...counts.htm
Quote:I say consciousness arises from the chemical reactions in your brain because it's crystal clear that other chemicals (e.g drugs, medicines, foods, beaverages etc) can heavily affect disturb/change the chemical reactions occuring in your brain and by doing that also affecting your counciousness. Also you can't render someone uncounscious by punching their toes, but if you hit them on the neck, the skull, the jaw you can knock someone uncounscious because those areas have stronger connections to the brain. Or as an example when the brain doesn't get enough oxygen you go uncounscious. If those few points aren't evidence that consciousness does arise from the brain then they are at least strong suggestions. And you got nothing to support your claim that the human body is made out of consciousness or w/e you said and your claim that consciousness/the mind is seperate from the brain isn't supported either. And if you post some sources, please post some reliable sources not sources like "www.openyerbrein.batshit" whom are very biased.
Also your conscious state correlates with neural activity in the brain (correct me if I am wrong).
Life is such that there got to exist a parallelism among body-brain-mind and consciousness.
When this parallelism doesn't exist anymore then the body die.
There is no evidence that the I or consciousness die as well.
In fact there is evidence for the opposite as NDEs show us.
It is obvious that if a brick fall on the head each and everyone of the components of ourselves will
notice the event and in many cases our body die.
That is natural but nobody so far produce any evidence that when the body die everything die.
Quote:Also I checked up Sam Parnia and he most likely is the "best expert" in the "field" because not many others take NDEs as seriously as other subjects. Also most of his beliefs/views are rejected by the majority of scientists so I doubt that he's something special.
[source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Parnia] I got that information from wikipedia although my first sentence: "Also I checked up Sam Parnia and he most likely is the best expert in the field because not many others take NDEs as seriously as other subjects." is mostly an assumption but very likely. I doubt many scientists research NDEs relatively speaking.
I already explain you that everybody here suggest me to see Dr. Parnia report and so i did.
His conclusions were very clear.
NO YES NO NO so he concluded nothing.
Quote:Regarding your last sentence, what have you been smoking?
I understand that wanting to believe in eternal bliss, an afterlife and such can be comforting, but I'll stick to what science shows, not what I want to believe, and I like to avoid pseudoscience.
Quote:Hopefully you don't.
Have a good day.