(April 16, 2016 at 10:05 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:(April 12, 2016 at 9:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Not only are they projections of human desires, there is no way to postulate "eternity" with an infinite cognition as the starting point. You cannot claim everything has a cause then ignore the implication that your "super cause" has to have a cause itself.
"Eternity" is only plausible as an up and down cycle without a cognition. Much like a light switch goes from off to on back to off. As soon as you postulate a super hero as the cause of that cycle, then it begs the question as to what caused that super hero, and what caused that super hero and so on. The problem is called "infinite regress".
What if you never flip the switch? Why is a continuously flipped one more plausible? Both states seem just as unimaginable to me. And yet one of them is true by necessity, it would seem... There doesn't seem to be a third option. There isn't even a second one, if you really think about it.
Instead of trying to look at it as a mental exorcise which is what laypersons do, I'd listen to the QM experts whom are pointing to our state as not being static. If nothing lasts forever then not even nothing lasts forever and even nothing will eventually lead to something, and we know at the QM level that particles pop in and out of existence, which makes the off to on to off to on to off as a cycle very scientifically plausible.
What is missed in this, is that as Krauss said in the video, and I agree, that humans stupidly ask "why" and look for a purpose when the better question is "how". What we do know is that a super cognition is not a requirement in any case.
