RE: The main reason I'm an atheist
April 19, 2016 at 1:00 pm
(This post was last modified: April 19, 2016 at 1:40 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.
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(April 19, 2016 at 10:50 am)Little Rik Wrote:(April 18, 2016 at 11:57 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Seriously, can someone explain to this evolutionary biologist... what the fuck is this "Darwin evolution" that Sick Rik keeps rambling on about?
Me rambling on?![]()
Not at all Rock.![]()
All i do is referring to the comments that atheists make abut evolution.
Almost every time i talk about evolution atheists come up with the origin of the species
as the only evolution that they know.![]()
And guess what Rock?![]()
Someone called Darwin came up with this sort of idea.![]()
So please blame these atheists not me.
Because you seem to be a little slow, I'll try to explain this to you in the simplest terms possible:
1) Charles Darwin did not invent the idea of evolution; his grandfather Erasmus Darwin, years before, had done some work/writing in that field, as had many others. The "Modern Synthesis", as we call it, which forms the core of modern evolutionary theory, was not developed until the 1930s, combining the discoveries/insights of several people (including Darwin) into a form that included new genetics and chemistry data that was then becoming available. It has changed little between then and now, except to confirm what the previous Modern Synthesis had established upon the discovery of DNA scanning techniques, as well as fossils scanning equipment that allowed us to see things like feathers on Velociraptor and the other theropods.
2) What Charles Darwin and Alfred Russell Wallace co-discovered was Natural Selection, not evolution. NS was just an explanation for how it happened, giving the first practical insight into the process. Darwin discovered it before Wallace, but held off on publishing because he was afraid of the scandal it would cause, and wanted to be sure his book's questions and the answers he gave to those questions would stand up to scrutiny, until Wallace let him know he was about to publish a paper on the same subject... so they co-presented the papers, with Darwin reading first. That's why you think Darwin invented evolution.
3) I am an evolutionary biologist, so I know what evolution is and is not. Literally every member of my field team (there were 30-40 of us, depending on what crews were working on what projects) were Christians, with open displays of Christianity in their offices and on their persons, except for one Hindu and two atheists-- myself and one colleague (with whom I became best friends, but not for that reason). When you can explain to me why all those religious persons had no issue with evolution, why they all agreed with me, you might have a point. Until then, you're just blowing hot air and emoticons out of your ass.
When I ask you "what the fuck is Darwin Evolution", I am actually saying that the fact that you call it that means you have no idea what it is, what it says, or how we came to discover the things we know about biology. If you did, you would use other terms. You're just another simpleton who has only a passing understanding of the subject matters you ridicule.
So much for Enlightenment.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.