Hope for America!!

[drfuzzy]

Gee, Dripshit, really?  Have you been trolling this forum for so long and have failed to notice that most of us were raised in the church?  Protestant Evangelical here, for over 45 years.  Many of us were also whipped and beaten as children.  I was sent to the hospital a few times because I failed to recite my before-dinner wholly babble verses correctly.  So your Proverbs 22:6 has as much worth as the rest of that SICK twisted, moronic, evil book: it's total bullshit.   I wouldn't insult my cat by lining her litter box with its pages.

Again opertive word here is TRAIN. You were not trained you were beaten. For all the time you spent in the church (and where beaten) it doesn't seem to have help you understand the difference between training and a good olde' fashion beat down and what training is.

So then how can you honestly compare the two? or is that what your empathy play is supposed to do here? You publish a story that invokes an emotional response and I am change a core value because "i feel your pain." Again how is that an HONEST look at what is being said, or is it not supposed to be?

And, perhaps you took offense at my taking offense, but you dodged the point entirely.  I know that my experience is on the extreme side of violent right-wing fundie.  I'm objecting to your use of Proverbs 22:6.  The fact that the vast majority of atheists here were raised Christian (and most in loving families and established churches of all denominations) disproves the verse.  It's not accurate.  We were "started off in the way we should go" (NIV) or "trained up" (KJV) and it didn't take.  The brainwashing failed for many and varied reasons.
We are living proof that "he will not depart from it" is false.  Sure, you can do the "no true scotsman" crap and say that we weren't properly trained, or proper christians, or never were believers, but that's also a lie.