RE: Back to Theism
March 27, 2009 at 12:47 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2009 at 12:36 pm by Edward.)
(March 26, 2009 at 4:38 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: IMO (and it is just opinion) it's no good trying to be an atheist ... it's just a label, it's what you are when other things force you to the realisation that there are no gods. I'm an atheist because the available evidence, or absence of, indicates there is no god (strongly IMO), if the available evidence indicated there was a god I'd become a theist.
Do you believe in quarks? Why? When have you ever experienced them? What evidence outside of an appeal to authority do you have for the existence of quarks, or for that matter that the moon is solid, or for that matter that the sun will rise tomorrow.
For 99.99% of the knowledge we have, we have no direct evidence. To deny order in the universe however, now that's about on the level of mentally ill.
(March 26, 2009 at 4:41 pm)Tiberius Wrote:(March 26, 2009 at 4:27 pm)Edward Wrote: I believe that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.Yeah...that's kinda the definition of a Christian dude.
As I explained, but you ignored, the term "Christian" is a misnomer. What you think of as Christian is really a Judeo-Christian. I am not that.
Quote:Ah well, you thought you were an atheist, you were wrong. Easy come, easy go.
Easy come, easy go!
(March 26, 2009 at 4:55 pm)Demonaura Wrote: And Kyu is right, don't 'try to be' anything, especially not an atheist. You beleive what you beleive and only experiences can really change it.
We believe what we choose to believe. It doesn't change the truth at all. Sometimes there is global warming, sometimes there isn't. Sometimes Iraq is our ally, sometimes our enemy. Sometimes we're at war with Eastasia, other times we've never been at war with Eastasia, but have always been at war with Eurasia. Sometimes a hairdo on the news tells us the economy is in the toilet, sometimes we're in a recovery. There's really no way to know for sure. If we believed only what we experienced, we'd all be in the dark ages. The only question that remains is what authority to believe, that is, if you can find two who agree.
(March 26, 2009 at 5:21 pm)WWLD Wrote: The chances of you getting banned are slim to none. everyone is welcome and I would love you know your opinons
I'm afraid your a bit innocent, my friend.
(March 26, 2009 at 6:35 pm)Tiberius Wrote: As is clear from the only 4 people we have banned, we only force you off the site if you are a spammer or you are being intentionally disruptive.
Uh huh. Well, it's the being intentionally disruptive part that has such a broad definition, isn't it?
(March 26, 2009 at 7:19 pm)padraic Wrote: @Edward
If you truly have an open mind,your beliefs may change. Mine did,over about 20 years from rabid Catholic,to occultist to agnostic to atheist. My atheism is not a matter of choice,it's where my questions led me once I lost my fear of disbelief.
I hope you hang around.
The Catholic Church is good for nothing if not for producing atheists.
