Pornography - are you for or against it and why?

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4-I only presume the law to be a standard, I don't care whether it's correct or not at this point. I'm sure a lot of people would love for the legal age of consent to drop considerably or be done away with. I established that it clearly is catering towards illegal activities. It by the very definition of the law isn’t breaking it, but by faking those activities, and making sure their actors/actresses have proof, they are breaking the intent and spirit of the law. Do you agree?

I do not, infact agree. Murder is illegal not because blood and death are distasteful: but because a potentially valuable member of a community is being annihilated, and unfortunately this is usually because of someone else's petty anger. Similarly... thievery is not illegal because people pick things up and take them without other people's consent: it is illegal because it disrupts trade negatively on a mass scale if you do not make it illegal.

Rape wasn't illegal for any reasons not religious or associated with thievery of the wife until... after animal abuse laws set a precedent for human abuse laws But now that we have this understanding of abuse to be illegal, I would like to note that there is no perceptible difference to outside observers of faked rape and real rape, hence you could have some point in this small regard. However, they are not breaking the intent of the law (which is to prevent abuse, fake abuse is irrelevant as fake murder), and the spirit of a law is a thing I have never claimed to understand, and see as irrelevant in the purpose of the law.

5-I’m not for banning you for having a gun because bad guys use guns to kill people. I’m not for banning legal porn for showing legal things. You have to have a license to own that gun though, it shows you’re competent to use minimalistically and there are no indications that you’ll misuse it. All I’m asking for is the same regulation of the porn industry.

I would like to note that most of the porn sites I have ever been to provide free *samples* and then have a required payment to access the rest. Granted, there are free sites elsewhere... but one should surely beware accessing these if they have any knowledge of the internet at all. I question the 'misuseability' of porn.

Can gun companies make rocket launchers and guns that can pass metal detectors and guns like the striker 12, but you can’t legally buy/own them here. Here people who choose to have fully automatic weapons have to give up their rights for privacy because the federal authorities can then search your property at any time for no reason. To relate back to topic, if you don’t see a problem with porn, then why should you care if the porn companies monitor your viewing trends to see what you like to focus advertisements and spam to you? If you want to watch porn that fakes illegal activities, fine but I’d suggest monitoring those people so that they don’t cross that line. If you just want the real illegal stuff you’ll have to go to the black market for that, which if porn were sanctioned and regulated would be easier to prosecute.

I do not care if a porn company wishes to know my viewing trends. I do care if people go to the governing body about this data and care to legislate something based upon it.

I like to watch war movies, which include plenty of killing and whatnot. Do you suggest monitoring me and every other human that enjoys history, Stalin? ^_^ But I'm too young for Gulag!

6- It’s not negative to exploit what you can? I guess that depends on the object of exploitation and whether you feel you’re entitled to exploit it. Would you exploit a record company? A stranger? A friend? An animal? A child?
I personally don’t feel it’s ever justified to exploit something weaker, more fragile or more naive than you are, at the very least.

Not at all. I would exploit a record company. I exploit strangers all the time. I often exploit friends. I don't exploit non-human animals quite to such an extent (although I am a fisherwoman, heh). Children are very easy to exploit and I do to an extent, though they aren't very useful very often.

And what else were you going to exploit? It is justified by the simple selfish principle: it gets me ahead. Granted, I share a portion of my wealth with other people... but never to the extent that it affects my end goals. And I despise naivety in a relationship, so one hardly has to worry about me exploiting anyone on the level of rape

7-What I mean is I have a distinction between physical attraction and sexual attraction. Perhaps it’s because I don’t see people as sacks of meat first then people after, I give them all inherent personal qualities first. Colloquially, I see a different between “something beautiful” and something “I’d like to bang”. I can appreciate beauty without having to claim it in whatever form that takes. I don’t want to damage our friendship here sae, but I think our baselines for comparison are far too different to meet on a middle ground here. I’m married in a heterosexual relationship, with kids and am far out of my spreading my seed phase. You’re coming from someplace completely different and that’s OK with me.

I don't see people as their form first, but I do see a form first and then possibly declare personhood afterwards. Not all humans are infact people, you know... plenty of them just lack personality.

I give them the quality of 'that is solid and moving and doesn't like me to look at it' to humans I pass along a street or hallway. I then add value to the human according to what I observe of it, and admittedly some of these values are negative additions (ie: that human contains a jerkish personality).

Your sister is beautiful like a sunset is beautiful, then? Which is to say that her beauty arouses an entirely different thing than a sexual desire. I can understand that, I hadn't thought of the expansive word that beauty is at the time i wrote it (I was on one hour of sleep!!!! ^_^)

I'm coming from the position that I do not want any children, yet hardly wish to be tied down to a single partner. I hardly dislike the stability you have in your life, but I could never live with such stability myself I too am far out of a 'spreading my seed phase' (kinda-sorta a woman...)... however: I remain sofar unmoved from the horribly irrational phase of feeling maternal every few days I don't have time for that, see, and I understand rationally that it is in my worst interest to do so, and also that I even can't bear it myself... and some portion of my brain still doesn't get it

I'm willing to drop the issue though, I'm not in here specifically to argue, rather: to learn and have fun while I do so and sometimes help others learn ^_^

8- Porn teaches (in some cases, not all) unreasonable and illegal ways to have sex, and that’s my point. Why do you need to have a legal porn where the underage lookalike acts all innocent and gets taken advantage of or raped, but then seems to enjoy it after a while?

Because if she didn't seem to enjoy it after a while, it would be too sickening for me to achieve pleasure (which I do largely off of faces). While I can appreciate an "underage lookalike", i can't appreciate innocence or rape. Pain and bondage? Sure. Rape? Nope. Double standard? Possibly. I wouldn't enjoy being fucked without my consent... I would enjoy bondage (probably not pain to such extent though).

I agree the current sex curriculum is defunct, but I also included home learning. I answer my kid’s questions about sexual topics and they’re only 5 and 8. I would not sit them down in front of porn and use that as a good role model for relationships. I don’t think that being raped, molested, beat or abused is a “good guide” for you want done to yourself or to do to someone else. I’m not talking about a monogamous relationship, or a bi/tri/trans/homo sexual relationship, and I’m not talking about the techniques or any BDSM play or fetishes. I’m talking about the legal porn that mimics illegal activities. That’s the only type of legal porn I have any issues at all with, and because they won’t get rid of it on their own, I suggested regulation, not prohibition of all porn.

Glad that your actually a decent father in this regard ^_^ I like hearing about decent parenting, makes me all happy inside ^_^

My desire to keep porn unregulated and sometimes free is because I haven't passed the legal age of majority where I can just buy it I also think it very unhealthy to keep porn away from "minors". I wouldn't mind being denied the rape category though (considering how scarcely I watch it? hehe ^_^). What other categories were you thinking of regulating though? 0.o

9-You would have a problem distinguishing between a real war and a fake war if the fake war were intended to make people think it was a real war. I believe that was clearly the porn industries intent, and I’d just like them to be accountable for it. It’s probably never going to happen and I can live with that, but I feel it’s a shame that society would demand such things to satisfy their urges.

A real war is when my territory and their territory are fluctuating. Hard. A fake war is when someone declares war on you and does practically nothing. Real war is not remotely fast. If it were, it would be called 'steamrolling', or 'bulldozing', or 'decimating'... not war. War is not accomplished by one side, but by two or more sides pitted against each other.

Fake war in movies accomplishes some of what war is (battles, strategy, death, failure/success, etc)... but it leaves it in the television. It doesn't permeate my life the way a war does. It is impossible for a fake war to have such an effect on life as a war... war is more than people dying you know: it is people fighting to survive, to not fail, to expand for good. You cannot accomplish this in a movie. A game has some mild capacity to do so, as it is immersing you within the world (therefore if integrated well you can experience such effects as war).

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