(April 20, 2016 at 12:00 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:Again, you don't seem to understand the difference between trainning and a beating.(April 20, 2016 at 9:07 am)Drich Wrote: Again opertive word here is TRAIN. You were not trained you were beaten. For all the time you spent in the church (and where beaten) it doesn't seem to have help you understand the difference between training and a good olde' fashion beat down and what training is.
So then how can you honestly compare the two? or is that what your empathy play is supposed to do here? You publish a story that invokes an emotional response and I am change a core value because "i feel your pain." Again how is that an HONEST look at what is being said, or is it not supposed to be?
And, perhaps you took offense at my taking offense, but you dodged the point entirely. I know that my experience is on the extreme side of violent right-wing fundie. I'm objecting to your use of Proverbs 22:6. The fact that the vast majority of atheists here were raised Christian (and most in loving families and established churches of all denominations) disproves the verse. It's not accurate. We were "started off in the way we should go" (NIV) or "trained up" (KJV) and it didn't take. The brainwashing failed for many and varied reasons.
We are living proof that "he will not depart from it" is false. Sure, you can do the "no true scotsman" crap and say that we weren't properly trained, or proper christians, or never were believers, but that's also a lie.
You train a person right they will be who you train them to be 9 times out of 10. If you in the name of training beat someone then 9 times out of 10 they turn out like what you are describing.